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On Wordle, the NYT, and Antitrust

58 pointsby semioticthrowaover 3 years ago

16 comments

jmullover 3 years ago
Casting Wordle as a NYT competitor squashed by acquisition is pretty stupid.<p>Wordle hadn&#x27;t even been turned into an on-going business, and Wardle apparently had no interest in doing so. There wasn&#x27;t even a squint-and-imagine-the-future potential competitor here, even just considering NYTs game business.<p>Yes, at some point you&#x27;re going to have to pay for Wordle, through a subscription and&#x2F;or viewing ads or make do with a crappy knockoff. Like everything else. This isn&#x27;t anyone&#x27;s first day on the internet, is it? If so, sorry to break it to you.
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zwiebackover 3 years ago
I&#x27;m not super happy NYT bought Wordle but I wouldn&#x27;t go so far as saying that Wordle might &quot;threaten the NYT crossword puzzle&quot;, I don&#x27;t think something like Wordle requires the kind of highly visible editing the NYT crossword does.<p>I think they just saw a good opportunity to get a bunch of new subscribers. Which is kind of weird because Wordle is super easy to reproduce, evidently.
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marstallover 3 years ago
They&#x27;re not paying for wordle, the game - obviously that&#x27;s been cloned a million times over (and it&#x27;s a clone itself).<p>They&#x27;re paying for the viral social network around Wordle.<p>My family has a group chat where we brag about our Wordle results and discuss our strategies every single day. It&#x27;s a nice way to connect with my adult siblings. I can only imagine how many other groups like ours exist.<p>Wouldn&#x27;t the NYT like to capture that kind of energy within their Games offering, within <i>all</i> their offerings?<p>It will take finesse for the NYT to land that energy as a profit-making service that drives growth, but that&#x27;s a challenge they&#x27;ve got to take on, and if anyone in the news industry can do it, it&#x27;s them.<p>Great investment at a fire-sale price. Viral concepts like this are 1 in a million.
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adamover 3 years ago
Many lament the downfall of traditional media then crucify them when they creatively explore new opportunities for themselves.<p>Should the &quot;Gray Lady&quot; have just stubbornly continued to print its papers until it was bought up by the same PE vipers who have destroyed countless other newspaper companies?<p>I applaud them for establishing other opportunities for themselves to survive and thrive. IMHO, the NY Times is not the enemy here.
ChrisLTDover 3 years ago
&gt; As a society, we want to properly incent smart people to build useful things.<p>The author of the piece needs to help bridge us from his proposal to &quot;re-examine the way we make rules around tech M&amp;A&quot;, and how Mr. Wardle would have been compensated for his work.
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quxparover 3 years ago
People are missing the point - NYT paid to have THE wordle of the day - talking to other people about your specific battle with that day&#x27;s word was 99 percent of the fun.<p>The act of whipping up a quick clone, while a a balm to the ego and a fun exercise for junior devs, does not recreate the social phenomenon.
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gringoDanover 3 years ago
The NYT&#x27;s main competitors aren&#x27;t other newspapers. Their competitors are Substack, Candy Crush, and Netflix.<p>As Byrne Hobart points out,<p>&gt; <i>&quot;in their latest quarter almost 30% of their new digital subscriptions were for games, cooking, and Wirecutter, rather than news.&quot;</i><p>And a bit more cheekily:<p>&gt; <i>&quot;When there&#x27;s a negative New York Times article about a startup, one of the not-uncommon Tech Twitter jokes is that this constitutes bullying from an established, profitable unicorn with over $1bn in annual recurring revenue.&quot;</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thediff.co&#x2F;p&#x2F;the-nyt-dead-trees-and-disruption" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thediff.co&#x2F;p&#x2F;the-nyt-dead-trees-and-disruption</a> (paywall)
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throwaway889900over 3 years ago
Nothing different than Flappy Bird honestly. Cash out on minimum effort and everyone will forget eventually.
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Apocryphonover 3 years ago
Meanwhile, Microsoft buys up all of Activision-Blizzard and Sony buys Bungie and no one blinks an eye. No one even noticed that Zynga just got bought by Take-Two within the past month!
zeroonetwothreeover 3 years ago
Definitely thought it was ironic the NYT bought a “competitor” after constantly complaining about big tech doing it over the years.
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ppljudgeover 3 years ago
I always remember that article where people said the new companies and ideas wouldn’t come from garages anymore. Looks like a single HTML game is a huge success now
one_off_commentover 3 years ago
I agree with the spirit of this piece, but I think Wordle is a weird choice to try to highlight the point. I enjoy Wordle, but I&#x27;m certainly not going to die without it. Not to downplay Wardle, but, as xeromal pointed out, it&#x27;s pretty easy to crank out a clone. Lots of people already have. If NYT paywalls it, I&#x27;ll either stop playing or find or create a clone.
JohnHaugelandover 3 years ago
wordle is a game that can be cloned in 20 minutes, and frequently is<p>worrying about that as an anti-trust issue is beyond the pale
madarcoover 3 years ago
No, NYT bought the NFT of Wordle
ncmncmover 3 years ago
Joke&#x27;s on the NYT: anybody can put up a Wordle work-alike. And will, the moment NYT puts it behind a paywall.
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stjohnswartsover 3 years ago
I bet the Wordle author is wiping his tears with hundred dollar bills over the viciousnous of capitalism.