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Ask HN: Why is GCP not as used as AWS/Azure?

22 pointsby kkcorpsover 3 years ago
Is it because it is not developer friendly or doesn't have good devops support or they are just not aggresive in marketing?

14 comments

more_cornover 3 years ago
Go look up how to create a load balancer on gcp. Last I looked there were six pages none of them simple and clear. I just want to know how to create one. It’s one simple thing. The essential part of any cloud service.<p>Now go read the aws documentation on an ALB. One page, this is how you create one and this is how you use it.<p>Azure on the other hand arrived late with a spectacular business plan. “You already pay me for software, cloud is part of that”. They won enterprise cloud in the blink of an eye.<p>Meanwhile Gcp wrestles with writing task oriented documentation, easy things are obscure or weird. (Compare security groups at aws with gcp, now look again. You didn’t get it the first time ) also if you’re designing a service there’ll be some critical thing that just doesn’t work. The old thing is deprecated the new thing is beta. (You fool! Don’t use beta things in production! Oh sorry there’s the non beta thing I can use? There isn’t one) or the feature you need to complete your task will never arrive because there’s a pissing march between gcp and k8s over who’s job it is to make the ingress work as desired.<p>Also, as others have said their support is garbage (I found a customer evangelist who was amazing if I could wait 3 days to get a response)
softvedaover 3 years ago
Google doesn&#x27;t understand Enterprise. They expect enterprises to use features or solutions that they think is the best way or highway. AWS&#x2F;Azure bends their back to introduce whatever features enterprise needs.<p>Next is poor support. I worked in a team that used DialogFlow enterprise for a voice app. The NLP engine was way way better than Alexa. But if you face an issue their enterprise support will tell you to post in StackOverflow !! As an example of why they don&#x27;t get enterprise, DialogFlow didn&#x27;t support mTLS for authentication and had no plans to build that feature.
coldteaover 3 years ago
Because Google has a bad track record of supporting its ventures and a worse one in supporting developers.
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frogpersonover 3 years ago
1) GCP support is non-existant 2) Google has a track record of dropping services with little to no notice. 3) There are numerous stories of google locking or deleting gcp account because the a.i. misinterpreted something about the owners gmail account. 4) Try to get a human on the phone, its impossible.<p>It doesn&#x27;t matter how good the services or pricing are. I dont trust them and I doubt I ever will.
HillRatover 3 years ago
I like GCP quite a bit, and I&#x27;ve architected on it both in the &quot;giant global company&quot; and &quot;small startup&quot; spaces, but it&#x27;s just not well-positioned competitively. AWS has first-mover advantage and massive lock-in, while Azure has a comfortable second place position with companies that are deeply ensconced in the MSFT and .NET ecosystems and took longer to build a cloud strategy. Meanwhile, GCP was well below feature parity for a long time, didn&#x27;t really have an enterprise strategy that would allow it to take on its competitors, and never successfully positioned themselves as the startup cloud of choice despite that being their focus.<p>Today, GCP&#x27;s still better-positioned for small companies who need to move fast and are more price-sensitive, but they&#x27;ve done a good job catching up on the enterprise space, and having late-mover advantage has helped them avoid some of the footguns you see in AWS. There are still a lot of sharp corner cases in their services and documentation, and they&#x27;re as bad as anyone else in Google when it comes to taking customer direction (it <i>really</i> helps to have direct contacts in the organization or be a large-scale implementation partner), but they&#x27;re a perfectly valid cloud option with a lot of great services at relatively aggressive price points (and, arguably, if you&#x27;re working in health or life sciences, they&#x27;re actually a <i>very</i> good option compared to AWS or Azure thanks to their extensive healthcare API portfolio). Unfortunately for them, they&#x27;re never going to be anything more than the fourth-largest global cloud provider, which isn&#x27;t a bad place to be, but probably a bit humiliating for GOOG.
roshan8over 3 years ago
IMO, lot of services are not matured enough. For eg: Changing roles or even a security group from GKE&#x2F;Nodepool requires nodepool replacement. We need to take care of the complete node draining and adding the new nodepool. I too agree that GCP doesn&#x27;t take customer feedbacks like AWS do.
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pauldd7over 3 years ago
Because if Google has a change of heart, GCP is gone, like many of it&#x27;s other services.
nkristoffersenover 3 years ago
I had several thousand dollars in GCP credits but eventually moved back to AWS.<p>Overall I prefer the philosophy of AWS regions vs global infra. So many GCP outages were global. Also AWS seems very keen on customer feedback (if you are big enough at least).
d--bover 3 years ago
When they started they kept the “beta” tag for like 3 years and it freaked everyone out.
giantg2over 3 years ago
Slower to market than AWS. Doesn&#x27;t have their foot in the door as well as MS (due to Win, Office, etc). Never made any real push, or unique value proposition, to meaningfully break in.
menaerusover 3 years ago
Depends who you ask: if you ask sales people they&#x27;d tell you the reason is because the sales strategy wasn&#x27;t good enough &#x2F;s
speedgooseover 3 years ago
I can’t think of any good reason to use GCP. They were a bit late to the party and people don’t switch clouds for no reason.
taf2over 3 years ago
Probably because it was third to market?
thresholdover 3 years ago
I won’t touch GCP, even after they gave us 2k credits. Their customer service reps have “well that’s just too bad” on the tip of their tongue. AWS is #1 for good reason