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Apple bans accounts of developers from Belarus

191 pointsby ameshkovover 3 years ago

16 comments

molindover 3 years ago
Moreover, I’m citizen of Belarus, but living in Poland, tax resident of Poland. My developer account is tied with legal entity in Poland and bank account in Poland. I was banned too. :/
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mrtksnover 3 years ago
That’s probably as a result of Apple’s compliance department action.<p>It’s technically Apple who bans the accounts but it’s the US government who makes them to do so.<p>Essentially, there are people and places that US government prohibits US companies to do business with. Not only US companies actually, anyone who wants to do business with US.<p>Syria, North Korea, Crimea, Belarus, Cuba etc. are terrible addresses to open an account with.<p>If you remember, Github banned Syrian developers.[0]<p>[0] : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;github-ban-sanctioned-countries" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;07&#x2F;29&#x2F;github-ban-sanctioned-coun...</a>
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jmnicolasover 3 years ago
I have seen these kind of BS for years on HN now (admittedly most of them from Google). I have decoupled from all those big companies so they can&#x27;t literally destroy me. I use some of their service but it would be of no consequence if they banned me (YouTube account for example).<p>I encourage you all to get back your freedom. It&#x27;s not sexy or easy but it&#x27;s better than loosing everything someday because a stupid law has been passed or on an AI whim.
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mullingitoverover 3 years ago
I have a feeling that if Belarus is part of a Ukraine invasion, this will just be a warmup. On the bright side, not having an Apple developer account won&#x27;t make much difference when you can&#x27;t purchase anything more advanced than a graphing calculator.<p>That being said, war is dumb and I sincerely hope cooler heads prevail.
rendallover 3 years ago
This is a terrible, terrible idea. What percentage of these devs have anything at all to do with Lushenko?
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qualifiedaiover 3 years ago
This is very stupid. Those in Belarus who can make a living via AppStore are independent from Belarus government or state owned companies for their livelihood. Also they are typically younger and liberal minded.<p>Now the West has taken their livelihood from them, forcing them to depend more and work for Belarus state. Same stupid policy as with Crimea.
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RychardMover 3 years ago
Yes, today many of developers received the mail about their account.
rocketChairover 3 years ago
Sanctions against countries are sanctions against populations. It doesn&#x27;t work.
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aritmoover 3 years ago
Are there actually such sanctions against Belarus?
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NicoJuicyover 3 years ago
Most here claim that sanctions don&#x27;t work.<p>But capitalism has been the greatest reason why wars are at an all time low. Since there is another way to have a reasonable wage&#x2F;getting wealthy.<p>Threatening with a war which is happening now, means you won&#x27;t get the cake both ways.<p>People there could be victims, but people there are also aiding in the military.<p>Nope, it&#x27;s not perfect. But it&#x27;s a tool in the toolbox and one of the best that doesn&#x27;t involve bullets and people getting killed en masse.<p>Note : probably not a popular opinion. But please suggest a better actual solution then that actually is proven to work without giving the bully all they want&#x2F;threat.
londons_exploreover 3 years ago
Now might be a good time to go hiring remote workers from Belarus... I can imagine a lot looking for new jobs...
nix23over 3 years ago
Oh that&#x27;s a nice move from apple to bring developers from Belarus, Russia and China together...nothing better as having a common enemy....maybe one more day thinking about it Pentagon?
thegingerover 3 years ago
Surely anyone associated with this &#x27;restricted party&#x27; should also be locked out of iCloud not just developer accounts.<p>Bricking half a country&#x27;s phones might create some negative publicity.
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ewjij23oijOIJover 3 years ago
Right decision from Apple. Lukashenko may force any developer from Belarus to integrate a backdoor into any app (no matter if they want to do this). Lukashenko may even kill a developer and let his security agency to publish &quot;modified&quot; versions of the app to do some really bad stuff.
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vanusaover 3 years ago
This may be a (very sloppy) overfit or some other kind of error on Apple&#x27;s part.<p>It is difficult to parse the official sanctions directives - but from my understanding they target only certain individuals and institutions - not the country (or its entire banking system) as a whole.
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cabirumover 3 years ago
The developers must have realized that their income depends on devices controlled by a hostile regime.
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