When I was a kid, we use to look forward to the Olympics. It was a big deal. The whole family would gather around the TV to watch the events live regardless of timezone. We use to follow the stories of the atheletes and it was constantly the talk of the town.<p>Nowadays, it kind of feels like Olympics are just annoying. Propaganda fest for authoritarian regimes. No one cares. Heck, some people don’t even know that the Olympics are even happening.<p>How did it go so wrong?
It made more sense before globalization. It was a chance to consider going to some unexpected destination, bringing people together from all nations. Maybe take your spouse or your kids with you, go on a cruise, hire a tour guide, grab a book with some tips and short phrases in the local language and embark on an exciting adventure.<p>In the 21st century, we interact with the rest of the world on a daily basis. You can learn more about any destination online (heck, on Wikipedia alone) than you would from traveling there for a few days to watch some random assortment of sporting activities.<p>And I think to some extent we're so used to having everything at our fingertips that sometimes actually <i>going</i> to the destination is less rewarding than one would expect--spend a ton of money (vs. going on the internet 'for free'), deal with customs, deal with the occasional crying kid on the plane, maybe forget to bring an item you really needed, maybe get mugged or lose your passport, have issues with your hotel reservation...<p>Not to mention the opportunity cost. Compare the number of, say, Summer activities one could consider instead of going to the Olympics in 1952 vs 2022. If anything we suffer from <i>too many</i> alternatives today<p>Plus there's no Cold War to raise the stakes to the point where anything but the gold medal wins utter defeat.<p>And frankly I'd wager most people aren't that into nationalism anymore, except maybe the alt-right and its equivalents elsewhere. "I'm just trying to get through the week" trumps all else for most people.
I don't know where you live, but my experience is that in the US, the network coverage just ruined the Olympics because they don't "get it."<p>I grew up in a different country--not the US, China or Russia. We typically hope to get a half dozen medals and a gold would be a Big Deal.<p>As a result, if you turn on the TV, you get random coverage of any of the hundreds of individual competitions. Modern pentathlon! The one where they jump on a trampoline! Handball!<p>There are so many sports that it's non-stop coverage. Also, because it's live, whenever someone from your home country has a chance to medal it's a big deal: everyone stops doing what they are doing to watch TV. Collectively. It's an "event".<p>It's really fun and--this is key-- <i>emotional</i>. Not just to watch your country medal but all of the other sports, winners, losers, etc.<p>In the US the TV coverage is garbage. It's 100% US-centric, which would be excusable (if shortsighted, because it's less fun and emotional). Worse, it's not even live, which makes it less special. And they don't show any sports where the US isn't competitive, which makes it less novel and fun.
<i>>When I was a kid, we use to look forward to the Olympics. It was a big deal. The whole family would gather around the TV to watch the events live regardless of timezone. [...]
Nowadays, [...] No one cares. Heck, some people don’t even know that the Olympics are even happening.</i><p>It seems like the <i>macro</i> trend of network television spectacle events is on the decline and probably due to the internet. The decline in ratings happens across many domains:<p>- sports: NFL Super Bowl football viewership declines[1], MLB baseball, NASCAR racing, Olympics, etc<p>- awards shows: Academy Awards, Grammy Awards<p>- morning shows and evening newscasts on all networks NBC/ABC/CBS, etc<p>Both the internet (Netflix, Youtube, etc) and a demographic shift means events like the Olympics is not a big deal anymore. Yes, the Olympics committee has scandals but <i>everything</i> on network tv has been on a long term decline.<p>The 1950s television sets shifted audiences out of movie theaters. The 1940s era of "Gone With The Wind" and "Casablanca" represented the peak movie theater attendance for % of population. Now the internet is shifting audiences away from tv specials including the Olympics.<p>[1] <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/sports/football/super-bowl-television-ratings.html#:~:text=The%209%20percent%20decline%20in,people%20than%20the%20season%20before" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/sports/football/super-bow...</a>.
The model of "go to a new place every four years, build an Olympic village and a bunch of athletic facilities" doesn't work economically. It doesn't make enough money in the short term, and the facilities don't get enough use in the long term to justify it either.<p>That makes it hard for a city in a free society to want to be the host. The costs are very real but the benefits are elusive. Probably the last time the Olympics were profitable to the host city was the 1984 Los Angeles games and that was because Los Angeles was able to drive a hard bargain because nobody wanted to host the Olympics after the terrorism at the 1972 games.<p>Some people have suggested we might be better off if the Olympics were held in the same place(s) every year, maybe in Greece.
Assuming you're in the USA: NBC bought the exclusive rights for coverage in the USA (through 2032), and what gets shown, and when, and with what commentary, reflects their priorities.<p>Edit: I just found a fascinating detail on the Wikipedia page <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Olympic_broadcasts#Mike_Tirico_era,_emphasis_on_live_coverage_(2018-present)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Olympic_broadcasts#Mike_Ti...</a> which points out that NBC doesn't want Olympics coverage to cannibalize their Super Bowl viewership, which is more profitable.
I’ve noticed the same thing, and I think it’s for a couple of reasons:<p>As noted in another comment NBC is an absolutely terrible steward of the broadcasts in the US, but they spent the money to help prop up their football investment.<p>The second is that the IOC is driven by greed, and dictatorships have money while craving any legitimacy they can get on the world stage. It’s been shown in multiple studies (sorry I don’t have time to look them up offhand) that only a few cities have managed to pivot the Olympics required investment into a profit by any measure (including public good, which is where I recall the few that are considered successes hinge their measurements, i.e. LA). That drives the actual Olympics into those countries arms.
Are they terrible?<p>I was tuned into mens figure skating last night in time to see an incredible flawless performance from a young 19 year old man from Japan.<p>Some time later they were doing snowboarding slope style which was really fun to watch.<p>There might be less energy with less people in the crowd due to the pandemic, but the performances from the athletes are nonetheless fantastic.<p>Maybe I'm having a different experience as I'm in Canada and its broadcast differently. The CBC is essentially playing all olympics all the time, of course at various prime times compiling the gold medal finals (especially if a Canadian is in any sorts of contention).<p>CBC's streaming service Gem will be streaming everything, so with that in mind, if you're a fan of something niche (ie. in a canadian context: not-hockey, not-curling) you have more ability than ever before to watch an entire event.
You grew up.<p>That's all. This realization of the Olympics being a non-event to you is how most adults have viewed the Olympics for the past 50 years. Seriously, no one cares or has ever really cared much. You're just now old enough to realize that. Oh, and there are still families with kids who are watching the Olympics the way you did while growing up. My teenage kids happen to love the Olympics and are watching every event. See? The Olympics haven't changed. You have.
One reason I think is the fragmentation of culture. When there were only a limited number of TV channels you could reasonably have a handful of shows that everyone in the country would get together and watch, especially for event broadcasts like the Olympics. Now there are so many options the chances one thing will be able to dominate the conversation is very low, even if lots of people watch the Olympics, because of streaming each person might be watching totally different events at different times. The unified communal experience was a big part of what made it exciting.
Simple, Commercialization, paid athletes.<p>When the US allowed Pro Basketball/Hockey etc. players to be on the Olympics, I stopped caring about it then. Yes other nations supported their athletes, but who cares.<p>Another thing, especially in the US, all you get to see on TV are the sports the Americans can win at. In the past you could see some sports you never knew existed and some were Americans did not participate in. No more.<p>Also half the broadcast is about the athlete's life. I just want to see the competition, not a complete biography of the people in it. Seems there is more biography then the actual competition.<p>Also it seems the Olympics committee wants to drop "unpopular" sports. They tried to drop greco-roman wrestling but reneged due to push back (as far as I know).<p>In the past, the Olympics was a great vehicle for people who were not selected for professional sports to get a second chance, no more. Seems you need to be a pro to even get to go.<p>Never mind the over Commercialization.<p>I could go on, but this is enough for me.<p>BTW, not watching it at all.
One aspect is that NBC has a lock on the Olympics for the US. Their streaming service is utter trash - unreliable, bad quality video, confusing menus (couldn't even figure out how to watch live events), rewind and fast forward don't have preview (at least on Roku), so you have no idea where to stop, no overlays describing any details of the stream, no editing of recorded events (i.e. 45 minutes of a zamboni cleaning the ice), etc.<p>Also, NBC seems to be working for the State Department in trashing China at every turn. Yes, China commits human rights abused, but this is a gold standard case of the pot calling the kettle black. The US is one of the biggest human rights abusers out there. The Olympics is about setting that aside for a moment. The US should have either boycotted the olympics or shut up about the politics.
I'm not sure what country you're in, but in the U.S. the problem is in how it's broadcast now. The broadcast rights never should have been sold exclusively for such a long time and NBC is a terrible steward of sports and the Olympics in general for many years. The truth is though that the heart of the problem is the IOC, who agreed to these kinds of deals.<p>To me the Olympics used to be about the discovery of heroes, as they emerged through the greatest competition in their event that the planet could put together. Great moments of sportsmanship and overcoming what most people think are limitations of the human body. There was always a sense of <i>discovery</i> and the pioneering of new horizons in the events.<p>Now it's about making and manufacturing "heroes", with commercial deals going out to athletes years before they're ever even proven to be winners. Selective broadcasts, 30 minute human interest stories, commercials commercials commercials commercials, and after the games branding tie ins. Athletes used to be "Olympic gold medalist!" now they're just celebs with less clout than the many "influencers" who aren't known for having much talent in anything in particular.<p><i>edit</i> I just heard the phrase "industrial sports" applied to the problem and couldn't agree more.
Olympics are like nationalism on steroids. How can that be interesting?<p>It's also a tragedy. Tens of thousands of talented people who dedicate their lives to an event. Then they return from the Olympics to... get a job as a Wallmart greeter? It's a global waste of human potential
> We use to follow the stories of the atheletes<p>The advent of the Internet made it much more widely known that the athletes are being badly exploited and forced to risk getting permanently injured or killed in order to make more money for the corporations that run the Olympics, so it no longer seems ethical to prop it up by paying attention. Especially since several do die each year while training.<p>Also the fact that they're getting rid of all the real sports in favor of events that have better TV ratings.<p>And also the fact that many of the events are so badly run that luck plays just as much a factor as talent in determining who wins. The whole thing is just meh.
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but what <i>really</i> ruined the Olympics for me was the sudden realization of what they are.<p>In essence, [modern] Olympics are a glorified parade of genetic freaks (ok, maybe not freaks, but outliers?). I don't mean this disrespectfully to the athletes, but at the same time, the reason they're able to break the top 10 in any particular sport is extreme form of selection bias.<p>Their lungs are just a little bit bigger than everyone else's. Or their femur/thigh ratio or whatever. Or their fingers are extra flexible.<p>So what we see is just a ruthless form of selecting the best people genetically, for that sport, since childhood. Yes, sure, they put in a lot of work, but so does every athlete who doesn't make it to the Olympics or WCs. And I'm sure 99+% don't make it. But you still can't overcome something like a height disadvantage in Basketball or Swimming with pure training.<p>As someone who struggles with poor health genetics, watching Olympics for me is rubbing salt in the wound at best. And once you realize it's just genetic freaks performing "as expected", it's really all very boring. Also once you realize the performance records mostly stagnated after the 1980s, and most of the modern record improvements are due to hyper-optimized equipment.<p>After all, would we be surprised that a dog is good at running or a fish is good at swimming?
As one who is surrounded by Olympics athletes, the 1984 Summer Olympics was held in Los Angeles.<p>I got the chance to actually meet people from all over the world and learn to converse in their tongues.<p>No politics, no post-event reviews, no media coverage on flaws of judging, no politicians leveraging Olympics (that I intensively read for in many printed media). A really nice week(s).<p>Today, not so much.<p>sources<p>* <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Summer_Olympics" rel="nofollow">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Summer_Olympics</a>
My thoughts:<p>When I was a kid, seeing Olympic-level athletes (or any high-level athlete) was a Big Deal, even in the news. Now, we’re surrounded by news; we can learn intimate details of their private lives. Familiarity breeds ennui.<p>The Olympics aren’t for talented amateurs anymore. They probably never were, except in the beginning, now now we realize this. Everyone is aware of the commercialization surrounding every aspect of it. At worst, I t’s a scam on a global basis. At best, it’s just another commercial enterprise slowly being stripped of any national pride.<p>The Olympics are expensive. The first thought is how much they cost now, not whether we’ll win anything. What is the return on the Olympics? A ton of debt, mainly, and unused venues, slowly rotting, rarely to be re-used.<p>Going places is expensive. Cheaper than it used to be, for sure, but it still eats a ton of expense that few people have access to. So, we can watch them on video, but it’s easier to just get the highlights than absorb the whole event, since there’s less time availability. But there are other things to be done so we can just plan to get the highlights later.<p>Finally: it’s sports and I have other amusement available. Sports don’t matter like they used to. I, personally, don’t make connections with people thru discussion of sporting events. So, the Olympics are something that a bunch of people are involved in that has no connection to me.
The quality of the broadcast coverage in the USA is so bad. The announcers have some sob story about the US athletes and then just cut coverage from a bunch of other athletes in other countries. They delay broadcast for time zones so results are known before it even airs. Some spots that are uncool can’t even be watched it’s such a shitshow.
What I'd love is a single HD video for each sport which is just the competitors competing. No commercials, no announcements, no human-interest. In fact you could trim out everything but the top three performances and I'd be fine. Even then, it's not something I'd watch for more than 10 minutes.
Not sure what you mean by "regardless of timezone".<p>I was lucky to be in a foreign country during an Olympics (Australia). They had no delusions of grandeur (except maybe in swimming). They interviewed winners regardless of country, they told stories regardless of country. They showed events live.<p>Dick Ebersol stubbornly kept the standard practice of tape-delaying major events to prime time in the US, long past viability in the Twitter/ESPN/Google ecosystem. In some cases (swimming), they have lobbied to change the schedule so live events can be live in the US prime time window. I believe Michael Phelps's 2008 Beijing races were at 7am local time. Surely other countries loved that.
There are many more things competing for people's time and attention. Also, nationalism is waning in many places due to globalism. The Olympics is inherently a nationalistic event. If you don't buy into these artificial divisions of mankind, the whole flag-draped charade is nauseating. Not to mention the outright absurdity of the idea that national representatives competing against eachother in sports has any significance whatsoever.<p>For me, the precariousness of our time has made me sober up. I'm sick of spectacles. I want real answers and substantive initiatives that work towards solving the problems of our age. Not sports, not bread and circuses, for goodness sakes!
Olympic Games have been used before to underline the power and greatness of a nation - look at how the 1936 Games were used propaganda-wise, so I don't think this is a new phenomenon. What has definitely changed is the importance of live events on TV. In the German speaking area in the 80s to the 2000s, Saturday night shows were popular that gathered the whole family in front of the TV (I'm just saying "Wetten Dass..?"). Due to on demand entertainment that can be perfectly tailored for the desired target audience on Youtube or similar platforms, such TV events have simply lost their importance.
I see a lot of blame to the Olympics format here, but I think it's the broadcast model making it harder to adapt to modern times.<p>The Olympics have a lot of 1-minute clips that would be perfect for TikTok or a short YouTube video, but even in countries with good Olympics coverage the seem stuck in a TV-like format where you cannot publish anything without permission of whichever company bought the rights in your country.<p>This is a pity, because the Olympics are objectively great: seeing the end result of years of effort by the greatest athletes in the world is the best motivation anyone can have to achieve more in life.
US TV ruined it. It's entirely different coverage in at least europe, none of this editorializing, profiles, etc etc. Just coverage.<p>I liken it to something Jonathan Demme (paraphrasing, maybe misattributing) said about Stop Making Sense - "concert films like to show the audience having fun, but our feeling is it limits/detracts from the experience" (stop making sense shows the audience very very little in its runtime)<p>So, to me, this carries over in the US coverage - they make all the decisions about how I should feel about every part, rather than letting the viewer come up with their own experience.
For me, it's the absolute hypocrisy of these events which turn me off. Slogan of the winter Olympics is "together for a shared future". Everyone is laughing and clapping and keeping up a facade. Meanwhile, millions in China are systematically getting physically and psychologically molested in concentration camps because they had a different ideology or religion (Xinjiang internment camps). Everyone complies with China's rules and authoritarian regime. Nobody makes a statement. IOC is silent. That future is not so shared as people make it out to be.
You could probably cite dozes of contributing reasons ranging from Covid fatigue, the number of entertainment options exploding, and peoples' attention spans being more limited.<p>But I'd speculate that one of the biggest factors is the feeling of postnationalism.<p>Being from a specific nation means almost nothing anymore. There's basically almost no such thing as a Frenchman or a Brit or a Canadian: these are just treated as arbitrary designations today. If everybody everywhere is the same and the nation is treated as irrelevant, then an international competition means much less.
They also added too many sports recently in both summer and winter Games in order to drive tv viewing numbers up. That's diluted the quality, think the skateboard competition in the last summer games.
You just grow up to see behind the veil. It's not a chance that the modern olympic started peak "concert of nations", they already were a nationalistic endeavour.
I'm not a big fan of politics, but this article[0] really struck a chord with me. And I think it does a good job at giving some insight to your initial question.<p>[0]: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/04/china-opens-winter-olympics-with-peace-doves-and-a-mighty-provocation" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/04/china-opens-wi...</a>
The Winter Olympics have been in decline for several cycles now -- they're just not as interesting as the summer games. I recall a couple or more cycles back when they were in Canada that there was hardly any snow and about as much enthusiasm. Stephen Colbert was even there to try and bolster interest.<p>I feel sorry for Tokyo having been impacted by covid, where they had to postpone. Why we even went to China at all is a mystery to me.
I think it is just reality that we have more entertainment available than ever. And it is not consumed like it was before. Before streaming the Olympics were the big TV event. Everyone spend week or two following them as main entertainment on TV. Or radio, or news. Now we just have so many other options available that there is no more the whole community focusing on single event for time period.
Total opposite experience, much better to watch the Olympics nowdays than back in the days. I can watch whatever I want. idk where you live but at least in Europe, EuroSport Player you can watch all events, no ads, and any kind of commentary or non at all. <a href="https://www.eurosportplayer.com/olympics" rel="nofollow">https://www.eurosportplayer.com/olympics</a>
The olympics are playing the same game they always have, while the world has moved on.<p>Football is thriving because of fantasy and betting. The NBA has clips, NFTs, and creators producing endless content.<p>What do the Olympics have? Sure they have human stories, but you need to watch a major network to consume them. The games need to figure out how to fit in today's consumption model.
It's the opposite for me - ever since 2018, I watch the Olympics more than ever.<p>Remember that propaganda does run both ways, and the constant inflow of anti-Chinese sentiment in this year's presentation starts to get on my nerves. It's become so prominent that I start being willing to pay for a full-event streaming service with no commentators.
As others have said, you got older. Olympics have also been about politics.<p>Also, we're too used to on-demand TV now, and many people are on-demand only now. There were only a few channels in the past and your options when you sat down to watch TV were limited to what was on. The Olympics had primetime coverage and so that is what people watched.
So.. erm...<p>It can be tricky looking back to younger years and wondering "what changed." Sometimes it's you that changed.<p>Consider that Nazi Germany hosted an olympics. During the cold war, the olympics was a very lively proxy for soviet-nato competition... with a lot of nationalist propaganda.<p>Does no one care, or no one in your immediate circle? Did it become more of a propaganda op, or do <i>you</i> just see it more like that today than as a child. I think the olympics are still quite big, generally.<p>Sometimes it's us that changed.
It's mostly the way the Olympics are covered on TV that changed, I think.<p>> Propaganda fest for authoritarian regimes<p>This hasn't changed though. Rather than a celebration of sport and achievements, the modern Olympic quickly become ultra-chauvinistic, and not just for authoritarian regimes.
Sport should not intersect with politics.
For you it obviously does (why do you even care about democracy or authoritarism in regards to Olympics?).
And this is widespread now, and this is the root of the issue.
Corruption. The fact that Lausanne still calls itself "The Olympic City" is a shame. Switzerland should kick out the IOC, and the FIDA while we're at it.<p>I love the athletes, I hate the business.
> some people don’t even know that the Olympics are even happening.<p>Partly because we just had the ~real~ summer Olympics a few months ago and you don't normally expect another one that soon.
Nothing lasts forever.<p>Maybe it’s time for Olympics to leave the stage.<p>Personally I got bored on my 5th watch of it.<p>Nothing new there, except political scandals that nobody really care about. Just competition of pharma.
There’s a lot more competition for entertainment. Plus, many people just aren’t into sports anymore (yet again, likely because of competition for entertainment)
I watch the summer Olympics every time they happen. While there are some minor annoyances that the IOC introduces some years, the games are largely just as good as they ever were (except 2021). Culturally in America, I expect people care less because they have been indoctrinated against any form of nationalism. There is also a recent trend in the West of disparaging achievement in general. Where people used to admire and aspire toward greatness, now it seems like an inferiority complex has taken root in them.
You're no longer an innocent child. Go visit an elementary school and I'll bet you'll find similar enthusiasm.<p>They've always been annoying propaganda for authoritarian regimes, the 1936 Olympics in Nazi Germany is the prime example of that, and there have always been people oblivious to them.
It went wrong because you think anyone you don't like is propaganda. For the likes of you fb is propaganda and twitter is harbinger of truth. Fox news is a lie but the "Russia collusion" nyt is truth. America is the upholder of democracy and china, where there are no daily riots by blm is somehow a bad place
I’m with you - no one has even mentioned the Olympics to me in any way this time around. I saw the waning interest coming with the last couple Olympics as well. I think many factors contribute to this trend:<p>1. We have other ways to connect globally thanks to the internet, so we don’t need the Olympics to see a shallow representation of each country. YouTube is a better view into other cultures.<p>2. We are more aware of the impact and drawbacks of the Olympics, like the costs and associated corruption. It is incredibly irresponsible for any city to volunteer to host it.<p>3. The politics of the Olympics is not new but it is much more visible and easy to recognize, and that turns viewers off. Things like China having a female Uyghur light the Olympic torch.<p>4. We have other, better forms of entertainment that use up our limited time.<p>5. I think collectively there’s a pullback from broadcast sports even as there is a renewed interest in participating in sports personally. It’s not just the politics of it, although that has become a focus even outside the Olympics (NFL NBA etc). It’s that there is an absurdity to caring about what someone achieves when they throw away the rest of their life and just focus on a sport. Someone with that kind of focus in the interest of science is capable of producing lasting impact and move humanity forward. But with mass sports it’s just entertainment and vanity. I think there’s a rising consciousness around this aspect.
> Nowadays, it kind of feels like Olympics are just annoying. Propaganda fest for authoritarian regimes.<p>It really always was. I mean, people were actually <i>murdered for political reasons</i> at the Olympics in 1972. And much of the visual imagery of the Olympics, including the torch procession, has as much to do with Hitler and Leni Riefenstahl as it does sporting achievement. And then it went through a significant period where it was really a proxy for the Cold War.<p>The Olympics has always had a whiff of fascism about it (not least because of Juan Antonio Samaranch) and in many ways operates now as a sort of corporatist sledgehammer for major legal change, as does Fifa.<p>> No one cares. Heck, some people don’t even know that the Olympics are even happening.<p>There's more on the telly. But we care in Britain; the (Summer) Olympics has become a way for us to demonstrate outsize capability. Less so the Winter Olympics, which has never been a big deal for most of the world; just a few countries with permanent snow.