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Ask HN: Is there an exhaustive list of surgical procedures?

20 pointsby JabavuAdamsover 3 years ago
I've only found small lists of the most common procedures. How do hospitals handle this? I'd like to obtain / compile a list of all surgical procedures as a driver for thinking about / working on semi- then fully-autonomous robotic surgery.

6 comments

boasover 3 years ago
Interventional radiologist here. The short answer is &quot;no.&quot; I personally perform more than 100 different types of procedures, but there are lots of variations of each procedure, and different techniques for performing the same procedure. (And you need to know what to do when something unexpected happens in the middle of a procedure)<p>There are thousands of CPT codes, and even more procedures, since one CPT code could describe multiple different procedures, and some procedures involve combining multiple CPT codes. There is no formal approval process for new surgical procedures, and there is no comprehensive list. New procedures are invented all the time.<p>Your best bet is to pick a specific area, then find a surgeon to shadow. A lot of details of surgical techniques are not written down anywhere, and you learn by working with other surgeons. There are a few books that go through the basic procedural details. For example, Zollinger&#x27;s &quot;Atlas of surgical operations&quot; is a good reference for abdominal surgery, and Kandarpa&#x27;s &quot;Handbook of interventional radiologic procedures&quot; is a good reference for interventional radiology procedures. &quot;Biodesign&quot; by Zenios is a good introduction to inventing new medical devices.
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CaliforniaKarlover 3 years ago
It sounds to me like you&#x27;ll want to find procedure codes. Per <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aapc.com&#x2F;resources&#x2F;medical-coding&#x2F;cpt.aspx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aapc.com&#x2F;resources&#x2F;medical-coding&#x2F;cpt.aspx</a>, you&#x27;ll want to look for CPT codes in the range of 10021–69990. The linked site has lists, but might not have the details you want, so you&#x27;ll have to do your own research.<p>Best of luck!
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quietthrowover 3 years ago
I am no expert on this but can hopefully point you in the right direction based on what I learned recently (here on hn!)<p>Assuming you are in the USA- they just passed a law where all hospitals will need to publicly publish the list of all the procedures they do and the cost. Until now this,as I understand this was guarded very tightly and the common person would never get it. This information is maintained in what is called a “chargemaster” (charge description master). So I am thinking you can possibly download a few chargemasters abd then process it via queries etc and get a longer list of procedures. Hopefully this set you in the right direction.
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scyzoryk_xyzover 3 years ago
I work on educational devices&#x2F;content for laparoscopic procedures. It looks like we’re going into robotic as well. I find that this kind of information can be quite tricky to extract from the internet.<p>But just out of curiosity, could you tell more about what you’re up to slash what you’re thinking about?
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MaknMoreGtnLessover 3 years ago
In the U.S. you can parse through the Open Datasets from CMS at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cms.gov" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cms.gov</a>
m348e912over 3 years ago
I&#x27;d like to see the price ranges for each as well.
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