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Equality for all? And everyone fails...

10 pointsby zealoushackerover 13 years ago

12 comments

OpieCunninghamover 13 years ago
Clinton was a centrist, far from socialist politician. Obama seeks the same top marginal tax rate as Clinton, while supporting lower taxes in many other areas, placing Obama to the right of Clinton. If this absurd analogy had any merit, we would have all failed many times over in the 8 year Clinton presidency.<p>I'm also curious what the OP means when he calls Obama a "corporatist socialist". Considering the vast bulk of Obama's policies have been the socialization of losses and the privatization of profits, that phrase may be an apt description, though I get the impression thats not what the OP meant to say.
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garethspriceover 13 years ago
You know what's more damaging to American politics than the LURKING RED MENACE of socialism?<p>Uncited, anonymous propaganda designed to get people frothing at the mouth and to see people with opposing viewpoints as nothing more than gullible idiots.<p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp</a>
Volpeover 13 years ago
It's a strawman arguement.<p>You can't substitute grades for money. Because there are more drivers than just 'success' in "the real world"<p>In reality... The people who were getting "F"s would be earning no money, so they'd all starve, their families would starve... You really think they'll just think "well I won't do anything, cause I don't like how this system works".<p>Also, you are running the test on a group of people who have been conditioned into the capitalist way of thinking, of course they find socialism unsustainable, just as socialists find capitalism unsustainable.<p>Run an inverse capitalist experiment and tell the class "I'm only going to give these 2 guys here As and the rest of you will get C-s regardless how hard you work because their dads paid me some $$$" -- See how well the class goes then.
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angdisover 13 years ago
Why is it that libertarians often resort to lame "parable-like" stories to get their point across? Is there really such a dearth of real, concrete examples from which to draw?<p>It might be forgivable if the parables were at least interesting or original. But this one has been recycled on senior citizen mailing lists for at least a couple of years now. You can find it splattered all over the Internet wherever tea partiers like to distribute their propaganda.
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tptacekover 13 years ago
This story is literally the archetype of a bad HN submission. I'm surprised and disappointed it lasted 13 hours. Of course I flagged it.
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tariqkover 13 years ago
If I wanted to read stupid-ass chain letters repeating the same old boring irrelevant political talking points repeated by the mainstream media I'd be reading my Facebook feed.
bryanlarsenover 13 years ago
Only in America could Obama be called a socialist. In most other countries of the world, his policies and platforms would be considered slightly RIGHT of center.<p>A socialist would have:<p>- nationalized the banks instead of bailing them out.<p>- cut the insurance companies out of health care instead of bringing in a health care plan very similar to the one proposed by the republicans in the 90s.<p>- called for increased taxation on corporations to balance the deficit<p>- immediately pulled out of Iraq &#38; Afghanistan.
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tzsover 13 years ago
Obama's socialism? 30 years ago Obama could have had shot at winning as a Republican. To call him a socialist is ridiculous.
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chxover 13 years ago
<a href="http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp</a> shame on you!
ricardobeatover 13 years ago
Pointless and biased exercise. Nobody would stop working just to avoid paying for other people's welfare, and only fools argue for absolute equality.
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D_Alexover 13 years ago
Interesting, but: citation needed.
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zealoushackerover 13 years ago
Ok, to those of you whom have responded kindly to my mistake and did not act like children, thank you.<p>I wrote this in answer to your honorable requests: <a href="http://alexnotov.com/post/10752273733/a-mistake-on-my-part-re-last-post" rel="nofollow">http://alexnotov.com/post/10752273733/a-mistake-on-my-part-r...</a>