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Russia gives Ukraine deadline for decision on talks in Belarus

42 pointsby maury91about 3 years ago

8 comments

maury91about 3 years ago
&gt; If the talks are rejected, the Ukrainian side shall bear all responsibility for bloodshed<p>On my personal opinion this is another case of Russia making unacceptable requests ( bring our #1 target in a nation hostile to you ) and blame the other party when this doesn&#x27;t happen
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raszabout 3 years ago
Last time a president decided to join &quot;peace talks&quot; with russia they (Clinton helped!) tracked his sat phone and dropped missiles on his position.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dzhokhar_Dudayev#Death_and_legacy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dzhokhar_Dudayev#Death_and_leg...</a>
grejabout 3 years ago
The Russians assassinated the Chechen leader on his way to peace talks 26 years ago.<p>IMO the US should at least consider having VP Harris join Zalensky as an observer to help broker the talks. Make it very known to the Russians that she is with him, to deter possible assassination attempts.
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0x38Babout 3 years ago
President Zelenskiy wrote 40 minutes ago (1):<p>&quot;Results of my conversation with Alexander Lukashenko.<p>We agreed that the Ukrainian delegation will meet with the Russian one without pre-conditions on the Ukraine-Belarus border near the Pripyat river.<p>Alexander Lukashenko took personal responsibility for all planes, helicopters, and rockets on Belarusian territory staying grounded during our travel there, the talks, and the return of the Ukrainian delegation.&quot;<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;V_Zelenskiy_official&#x2F;745" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;t.me&#x2F;V_Zelenskiy_official&#x2F;745</a>
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upofadownabout 3 years ago
What, they don&#x27;t have email? What exactly is being proposed here? What would be the point of face to face negotiations? Since people are actively dying right now, why would you wait for people to be in the same spot?
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hdjjhhvvhgaabout 3 years ago
Why would anyone agree to that when Russians are attacking Ukrainians from Belarus?
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ukraineallyabout 3 years ago
China seems to have been blindsided on this war. They most likely were made aware of the republics but certainly didn&#x27;t expect full invasion. On day 2, china demanded diplomatic talks, hosted in china. Russia refused. Said they could happen in their puppet belarus. Which is outrageous and a huge slap in the face to China.<p>Russia saying they stand for peace is absolutely absurd. Everyone around the world knows it is Russia who is the aggressor.<p>&gt;&quot;If the talks are rejected, the Ukrainian side shall bear all responsibility for bloodshed,&quot; Medinsky said. &quot;But we remain here until 15:00 waiting for a response from the Ukrainian side.&quot;<p>On the contrary. Russia bears ALL responsibility hence forth regardless of anything Russia ever says or does.<p>&gt;&quot;We are waiting. Everyone is in Gomel waiting. If they come then there will be negotiations,&quot; Lukashenko<p>Oh ya, I bet they are waiting. I bet China is on the brink of breaking their alliance.<p>You must remember, China hates Russia. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Convention_of_Peking" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Convention_of_Peking</a><p>The UK used to own Hong Kong, Portugal Macau. Those were rightfully returned to China.<p>Russia still holds Chinese land.<p>If you also look at it, China was going to uphold the right for these new republics to exist.Casting significant doubt on China&#x27;s intention to invade Taiwan.<p>I wrote here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30471021" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30471021</a> about how Russian spies have infiltrated Canadian media. They pushed utter lies that Canadians are nazis. For example, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;8543281&#x2F;covid-trucker-convoy-organizers-hate&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;8543281&#x2F;covid-trucker-convoy-orga...</a><p>You will notice this Russian spy: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;author&#x2F;rachel-gilmore&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;author&#x2F;rachel-gilmore&#x2F;</a> stopped publishing quite abruptly. At exactly the same time the russian invasion was happening and the Canadian government getting wise. Did she escape back to Russia or did the RCMP pick her up? We may never know.<p>We must also face the possibility that our perception of China has been manipulated by Russian spies. That China is actually our ally and Xi Jinping no longer believes in territorial borders or at least any need to move them. China&#x27;s very long history has never been about expansion. The list of wars involving China is quite small.
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jokoonabout 3 years ago
Where else could they go? Poland seems like a good candidate?<p>Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania...
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