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Why is there a TikTok tracking pixel on UberEats what is this crap?

454 pointsby cmoogabout 3 years ago

27 comments

dvtabout 3 years ago
As someone that has spent a sizable amount of my career in ad products, the outrage here is kind of (sadly) funny. A conversion pixel? Hah, if you only had an <i>idea</i> of what the Facebook data faucet looked like in 2007-2017, your hairs would stand.<p>Pretty sure they were breaking all kinds of PII laws.
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_fat_santaabout 3 years ago
I&#x27;m no ads expert but my guess would be they run ads on TikTok and have the pixel on UberEats to figure out the conversion rate on those ads.
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tentacleunoabout 3 years ago
The amount of tracking on this page is astounding. Just from the screenshot, I count 9 trackers:<p><pre><code> Uber Eats&#x27; own analytics sc-static.net (Snapchat? whois doesn&#x27;t reveal anything.) Google Tag Manager Facebook Connect Yahoo TikTok ispot.tv (Some sort of ad management solution.) Hotjar (Behavioural analytics.) Bing</code></pre>
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Ekarosabout 3 years ago
Just in general look at those cookie consent dialogs at any site living on advertising or using it and really see the insanity of number of partners... That should show that we might actually need to burn it all down...
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calruebabout 3 years ago
As many people have pointed out these are for tracking the performance of ad traffic. Savvy, &quot;privacy minded&quot; businesses may listen to this sort of outrage, and pull the pixels off their websites. But you are kidding yourself if you think you aren&#x27;t being tracked because the frontend JS is all first party.<p>The same thing can, and is happening server side. Every platform out there now has an event&#x2F;conversion API [1]. If you are logging in to Uber Eats with a email&#x2F;phone number you have used elsewhere then you are going to be tracked full-stop.<p>1. Here is TikTok&#x27;s for example <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ads.tiktok.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;article?aid=10003669" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ads.tiktok.com&#x2F;help&#x2F;article?aid=10003669</a>
sha256sumabout 3 years ago
Protip: if user privacy is a concern to you, then not supporting these companies (by handing them your data) is a good place to start.
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tonymetabout 3 years ago
it allows uber eats to build custom audiences and track conversion rates . welcome to ad tech ca 1998
divbzeroabout 3 years ago
38.9 kB of JavaScript is a very generous interpretation of ‘pixel’.<p>Interestingly, it only loads after you agree to third party cookies by clicking “Got it”. So I guess they at least respect that.
user_namedabout 3 years ago
Because they run ads on TikTok
blindmuteabout 3 years ago
I used to be extremely privacy focused. I was the stereotypical noscript, don&#x27;t load email remote content, all services off on phone, etc kind of guy. But recently at a certain point, I just stopped caring. I use ad blockers, so what harm is there to Google knowing my information?<p>I don&#x27;t really have any information worth hiding. Even the worst case catostrophic leak scenarios are really not a big deal for me. So I just decided to stop making my life harder; I got a smartphone, I turned on the convenience services that track me, I started looking at pictures in my emails. I still think privacy is important, but I stopped caring about mine.
zero_kabout 3 years ago
People here talking about PII reminds me every day that we still haven&#x27;t grasped what Personal Data is, and how incredibly different it is from PII. Ah, sad.
Ourgonabout 3 years ago
The answer to this is the same as to all similar questions: <i>why are you not blocking third-party content by default</i>? To which the reaction tends to be that this is too difficult&#x2F;too much hassle&#x2F;should not be necessary. No, it should not be necessary just like locking your door should be necessary. Unfortunately, it is.<p>By the way, in this specific case another answer is &quot;UberEats? Learn To Cook™!&quot;
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uhtredabout 3 years ago
Using a browser add on like Privacy Badger should block that.
sdeframondabout 3 years ago
Is it a good time and place to mention Tracker Control ?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trackercontrol.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trackercontrol.org&#x2F;</a>
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sexy_pandaabout 3 years ago
Even more concerning is Hotjar.
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yawnxyzabout 3 years ago
Somewhat unrelatedly, just &quot;innocently&quot; embedding a tweet on a site adds a TON of trackers from Twitter. It&#x27;s really unfortunate
freemintabout 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;tiktok-ghost-kitchens-launch-viral-food-trends-2021-12" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;tiktok-ghost-kitchens-launch...</a><p>Might be an answer.
dionianabout 3 years ago
Stuff like this is why I try to use umatrix style filtering wherever possible
1vuio0pswjnm7about 3 years ago
As one can see from comments on HN, it bothers some website developers when these basic tactics are openly discussed. The user gets no choice over whether her data is shared, or with whom it is shared. The expectation appears to be that no one will ever complain, whether for the first time or on a consistent basis. Perhaps there is a belief that if a certain amount of time passes without any complaints, this signifies a common &quot;ad tech&quot; practice is acceptable to the general population, and passes any sort of ethical, regulatory or legal analysis. A sort of &quot;waiver&quot;. Silence equals acceptance.<p>&quot;Everyone else was doing it, so therefore we in particular are not guilty of any wrongdoing.&quot; Perhaps some folks think that is a good defense.
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bogotaabout 3 years ago
Why is this title allowed?
soaredabout 3 years ago
OP is going to have a heart attack when they install ghostery.
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y3shabout 3 years ago
At a quick glance it seems rather easy for tiktok to slip in whatever it wants in that source from time to time. Is this the status quo for third party cookies?
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Antwanabout 3 years ago
UberEats uses Tiktok ads to promote their product, this is used to track conversions.<p>I missed the part where this is shocking.
boring_twentiesabout 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t get this. Nothing about tiktok in the Network debugger, nor in uBlock or NoScript for that matter.
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tester756about 3 years ago
bing and yahoo.co.jp are interesting
ngcc_hkabout 3 years ago
The bigger picture is world technology can be used by china but china can refuse the world.<p>Dump TikTok and save the world.
chmod775about 3 years ago
Anything that tracking pixel does could also have been done server side, with users none-the-wiser.<p>Unless of course they list the (likely hundreds of) companies they&#x27;re sharing data with in a dreaded GDPR &quot;cookie banner&quot;.