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Launch HN: Rownd (YC W22) – Add authentication and accounts to any website

109 pointsby mhamannabout 3 years ago
Hi HN! We’re Matt, Rachel, and Rob, the founders of Rownd (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;</a>). We make it easy for developers to sign up users through a code snippet that adds account creation and authentication to any website or web app—like Stripe for accounts. We made a page for you to try it out: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;hacker-news" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;hacker-news</a>, and a video to walk you through the flow: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=H7fv17HSYrc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=H7fv17HSYrc</a>.<p>For example, one of our customers is a film festival. The festival requires everyone who buys a movie ticket to make a user account. That&#x27;s a big drag on conversion rates and requires technical upkeep. We take care of all that for the festival and make account creation and maintenance less painful for their users, which leads to more ticket sales. Further, the day of the festival, they can text “tickets” to xxxxx (our short code) and we send a specialized magic link so they can log in quickly and see their itinerary and tickets.<p>Rownd works across all your websites and apps, so (for example) if a user has subscribed to your newsletter, that data automatically gets contributed to their account for your app. No one needs to re-enter their email address!<p>Turning a website visitor into a user is hard. Turning a waitlist member or a newsletter subscriber into a user is even harder. There is a huge gap between marketing pages (landing pages, blogs, docs) and actual products (web apps and mobile apps). The culprit is the traditional sign-up&#x2F;login page. Sign-in pages add friction and lose users in your product funnel.<p>Your marketing pages should transition seamlessly to your actual product, but most sign-up flows act as a giant wall: stop, enter information that the company often already has from previous interactions, verify email&#x2F;phone, remember your password (hopefully it’s in the password manager!), and finally, if you’re lucky…you’re in.<p>We eliminate this gap, stitching together user accounts from your startup’s CRM, mailing lists, and database, making authentication work seamlessly across your websites and apps. If a user verifies their email or phone number anywhere (including in marketing emails), we authenticate them everywhere. Visitors and subscribers become account-holding users.<p>We give you a code snippet for websites (which you add to your footer), and an SDK for web apps, to add authentication. Our “hub” (i.e., our standard sign-in and account management widget, specially designed to look and feel trustworthy) is then visible on your pages, and the account data is available to the browser&#x2F;app through a simple API. Additionally, if you already have information about that user in other sources, such as CRM&#x2F;marketing tools (Hubspot, Mailchimp, Airtable, etc), we integrate it into the onboarding&#x2F;authentication process. The account data is available to your website or app through our browser API, so there is no need to build a backend for user management.<p>In more detail: We create an anonymous account around any visitor to your website. When a user comes to a site that has the Rownd Hub, a unique ID is created. Any form that is attached will fire that data to our Hub as well. The registration process can take place over several days if a visitor returns periodically. The data is stored in browser memory until they either press the &quot;verify my account&quot; button or click a button or link that is tagged as a Rownd authentication button (a bit like how Discord lets users view a server, but only comment once authenticated). If you link us to relevant data in your CRM, Airtable, or database, we make “claimable accounts” that are initialized from these data sources. Users claim their accounts and sign in with our passwordless authentication (via email or phone number today, but eventually perhaps crypto wallets too!). You can also use our “instant account links” in your own email and SMS campaigns to re-engage with users and bring them back to your app or website, fully authenticated when they arrive.<p>We are a team of former IBMers that have worked together for years tackling authentication, API management, and data protection. The predecessor to Rownd was a company helping startups comply with data privacy laws. We started to notice some pain around sign-up and onboarding for our own product and were frustrated that our funnel had so many holes in it. Then we realized that other companies were facing similar problems converting their site visitors to users. So, one day during a team discussion, we said “okay, let’s solve that problem!”<p>Since we’d already built a backend for secure data storage, the account layer was essentially there. We’ve therefore focused on building the layer that streamlines user authentication, connecting data directly to the user’s browser session as well as the custom backends that most products have. In the future, we aim to allow even more seamless, opt-in authentication across different websites as our network grows. We’ve got a ton of new features in mind from mobile app support to a broader array of SDKs to enabling “sign in with crypto.” We’re excited to make this crucial part of the internet easier, more scalable, and more distributed than ever before.<p>If you’re a developer, please let us know what you think! We’d love to hear your questions, feedback, ideas, and experiences around this space. You can also try Rownd for free at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;hacker-news" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;hacker-news</a>. We look forward to hearing how we might help developers accelerate building products, and companies speed up growing their user base.

23 comments

moonlighterabout 3 years ago
Congrats, looks very promising. I find the pricing page confusing though. First, the &quot;Startup&quot; option is $99. $99 for what? A month? A year? The unit of time is missing. Second, the &quot;Set up a call&quot; button is a turn-off. I don&#x27;t want to call anyone. I want to simply sign up for the service to try it out, as frictionless as possible. Having to CALL someone in 2022 is exactly the opposite of that.
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danielmarkbruceabout 3 years ago
This looks cool. Please get a great product marketing manager. It took me 5-6 mins to understand what it is. I&#x27;m not a PMM, but for example this could have made things much clearer from the get go:<p>&gt; We create an anonymous account around any visitor to your website<p>Doesn&#x27;t this single sentence sum it up? Anyone who would think about buying an auth service is going to understand the implications of this. I get that you want to pitch why anyone would care, ie the value prop:<p>&gt; We make it easy for developers to sign up users through a code snippet that adds account creation and authentication to any website or web app—like Stripe for accounts.<p>But the auth space is filled with... mostly bs products. If you pitch the value prop first, at least in auth, people will roll their eyes won&#x27;t they? And the Stripe analogy isn&#x27;t that great. Your value prop is that you make it easy for your customer&#x27;s <i>end users</i>. Stripe&#x27;s core value prop to customers is they make it easy for <i>you</i>. Both are valid, but you are sort of conflating things with the analogy.
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mywittynameabout 3 years ago
&gt; We create an anonymous account around any visitor to your website.<p>I like this idea. As a user, I hate that companies force me to make an account in situations where I don&#x27;t want to make an account. It sounds like companies that use your product will allow me to buy products from someone without having to create a damn account.<p>Accounts are negative value for most customers who don&#x27;t regularly return. It&#x27;s a source of friction: who hasn&#x27;t forgotten the password for a site their rarely go to then decide it&#x27;s not worth doing the password reset (even if you use a password manager, it might not stay updated for &quot;junk&quot; sites)?<p>Plus, junk sites are the ones that tend to get pwned, and leak information.
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jphabout 3 years ago
Great idea. I&#x27;m your target customer. My feedback: you&#x27;ve got a stellar opportunity for your home page, to add a big &quot;Try It Now&quot; button. And you already have the functionality in your &quot;Log In&quot; link-- just make it much more obvious.
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davewasthereabout 3 years ago
on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;pricing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rownd.io&#x2F;pricing</a><p>&#x27;Up to 1 website&#x27;, is an odd way of saying it. You can&#x27;t really have less, can you? Also in Pro you&#x27;ve spelt &#x27;Unlimited&#x27; incorrectly.<p>Any plans to add social auth, or just magic link going forward?<p>Watched the video, hopefully you&#x27;ll experience the network effect going forward. Best of luck with the product.
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runakoabout 3 years ago
Congratulations on your launch!<p>Feedback on the site: I read the site and still really don&#x27;t understand what the product does (I immediately saw it as an Auth0 competitor). Your &quot;In more detail&quot; paragraph would be a good bit of text to include prominently on the site.<p>Good luck!
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dot_michaelabout 3 years ago
Maybe I&#x27;m tired but after reading the landing page twice. I still have no idea how it works. Can I use the product without signing up? Or a video of someone using the product?
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jphabout 3 years ago
Sign up goes well. But your email confirmation link seems to be broken or on a reject list: when I click the link, then it fails from domain &quot;pstmrk.it&quot; and doesn&#x27;t seem to reach rownd.io. IMHO email confirmation links should go directly to the expected domain and company, not anywhere else.
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sligabout 3 years ago
Congrats on shipping! How does this differs from Userfront?
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lajrabout 3 years ago
Quick question: the NextJS demo seems to be doing auth on the client side which would result in a flicker on page load while it waits to see if the user is authenticated. Do you have a server friendly component in the react library? Other libraries (ex: auth0) have a special function which is deployed as a getServerSideProps function on each page, as well as an API route that handles auth requests.
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tommiegannertabout 3 years ago
Nice one. I love the SOLID project, separating apps from storage, and moving the users in charge of their data. This fits really well in that space.<p>Is it possible to use for users without Javascript enabled?<p>Any plans for a Go API? The HTTP API seems clean enough that it&#x27;s barely needed, but I guess standardization is good. :)<p>Your pricing page doesn&#x27;t say if it&#x27;s monthly or annually.
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abuehrleabout 3 years ago
Nice launch. How does this compare to clerk.dev?
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adamqureshiabout 3 years ago
ok i am a 1 man shop and outsource Auth to Auth0 but i am paying $25&#x2F;month to them without offending you how can i justify paying $99&#x2F;month for this ( I am building another app ) and doing it in webflow as MVP and want todo Auth with a stupid simple JS integration to at least test the MVP. But i like your dead ass simplicity.
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yodonabout 3 years ago
How does GDPR, etc. factor into this?
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tapsboyabout 3 years ago
What is your opinion about Gigya, LoginRadius and other old timers in the CIAM space? How are you changing this space? Also how does it compare to AWS Cognito, GCP CIP and others?
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vincentmarleabout 3 years ago
&gt; Sign-in pages add friction and lose users in your product funnel.<p>Sounds good but why don&#x27;t you apply the same principle on your own website?
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jn31415about 3 years ago
Do you happen to be hiring for customer support &#x2F; support engineer roles?
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getcrunkabout 3 years ago
Shocked no one complained about the fact that you have to give them your email or phone number to get any more information from the hn specific landing page. Pathetic for a company that claims to &quot;transition seamlessly&quot; from marketing to product. I&#x27;m already never going to use it.
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rgthelenabout 3 years ago
Hey HN! I am a co-founder at Rownd. Let us know what you think! We started down this path about 8 weeks ago and are very excited about the possibilities of what authentication SHOULD be not just what it is.
rachelraduloabout 3 years ago
Hi Hacker News! I&#x27;m a co founder and heading up design at Rownd. Looking forward to feedback and questions about your experiences trying out our product!
abuehrleabout 3 years ago
FYI your API docs page (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.rownd.io&#x2F;apiandsdks&#x2F;#&#x2F;rest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.rownd.io&#x2F;apiandsdks&#x2F;#&#x2F;rest</a>) linked from the footer is throwing 500s.
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bobbyradfordabout 3 years ago
Hey folk, I&#x27;m an engineer here at Rownd and super excited to hear all of your feedback. I hope you get as excited about frictionless auth anywhere and everywhere as we are!
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chrisfrantzabout 3 years ago
Love what the folks at Rownd are building. They have a data privacy background with a goal to kill the login page.<p>It’s a huge and ambitious goal and I’m looking forward to using them in the future as we expand our stack.
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