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Ask HN: Anyone know where Mark Pilgrim went?

305 pointsby rileywatkinsover 13 years ago
I went back to diveintohtml5.org to find something today, and it's gone. Then I checked diveintomark.org, diveintopython3.org, twitter.com/diveintomark...<p>Is Mark Pilgrim pulling a disappearing act?

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jdnierover 13 years ago
So check this out: Google "http error code 410" and the second hit is from diveintomark.org circa 2003.<p>""" Let’s all talk about HTTP error code 410. ... Error 410 means Resource gone, as in, a resource used to exist at this location, but now it’s gone. Not only is it gone, but I don’t know (or I don’t want to tell you) where it went. ... Now, there is not a lot of information about error 410... I suppose because it addresses a condition that doesn’t come up very often. Also, we’ve all been brainwashed into believing that all resources should be permanent, which simply isn’t true. """ Google cache: <a href="http://bit.ly/qxdBi5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/qxdBi5</a><p>His servers are returning 410 errors but also the same very deliberate HTML:<p>&#60;!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"&#62; &#60;html&#62;&#60;head&#62; &#60;title&#62;410 Gone&#60;/title&#62; &#60;/head&#62;&#60;body&#62; &#60;h1&#62;Gone&#60;/h1&#62; &#60;p&#62;The requested resource&#60;br /&#62;/&#60;br /&#62; is no longer available on this server and there is no forwarding address. Please remove all references to this resource.&#60;/p&#62; &#60;/body&#62;&#60;/html&#62;<p>Clearly Mark's invocation of the 410 error is deliberate.
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samuelover 13 years ago
He's OK. I don't know how to link a tweet but see textfiles account(<a href="https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles</a>)<p>Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring. ... The communication was specifically verified, it was him, and that's that. That was the single hardest decision I've had to make this year.
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mbrubeckover 13 years ago
This isn't totally unprecedented.<p>In October 2004, Mark stopped blogging after a post titled "Every Exit" which read: "It’s time for me to find a new hobby. Preferably one that doesn’t involve angle brackets. Or computers. Or electricity." [1] That post sat at the top of his previously very active weblog for 18 months until he returned in April 2006. Of course, that time he only stopped posting new material; he didn't delete all his existing resources. But he did disappear from online life for a while.<p>[1]: <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Mqb93dpyOtgJ:diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit+mark+pilgrim+new+hobby&#38;cd=1&#38;hl=en&#38;ct=clnk&#38;gl=us&#38;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Mqb93dp...</a>
chr15over 13 years ago
Looks like one of his last tweets:<p><i>Hey everybody! Adobe has acquired another batch of awesome products that they will slowly ruin through incompetence and mismanagement!</i><p>From <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter.com/diveintomark/status/120918899599474688" rel="nofollow">http://topsy.com/twitter.com/diveintomark/status/12091889959...</a>
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unreal37over 13 years ago
Apparently it has been verified he is alive.<p><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440</a><p>@textfiles (Jason Scott) Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring.<p>@textfiles (Jason Scott) The communication was specifically verified, it was him, and that's that. That was the single hardest decision I've had to make this year.
dangoorover 13 years ago
Good question<p><a href="http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-mark-pilgrim/" rel="nofollow">http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-m...</a>
kenneth_reitzover 13 years ago
His GitHub projects have been mirrored: <a href="https://github.com/diveintomark/" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/diveintomark/</a><p>Dive Into Python 3: <a href="http://diveintopython3.ep.io/" rel="nofollow">http://diveintopython3.ep.io/</a> GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintopython3" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintopython3</a><p>Dive Into HTML5: <a href="http://diveintohtml5.ep.io/" rel="nofollow">http://diveintohtml5.ep.io/</a> GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/diveintomark/diveintohtml5</a>
rdhyeeover 13 years ago
I'd definitely like to know what happened to Mark Pilgrim and hope he is well. It's still reassuring to know that his websites are still archived by the Internet Archive. (e.g., <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001953/http://diveintohtml5.org/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001953/http://diveintohtm...</a>)
Bo102010over 13 years ago
His github account is gone as well (<a href="http://github.com/diveintomark" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/diveintomark</a>).<p>This is troubling. I'm glad I downloaded Dive Into Python 3, at least.
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andyflemingover 13 years ago
"Stand down Mark Pilgrim alert. Google, his employer, is on it. Thank you all. Hoping for “he’s just pissed off at Internet” as outcome."<p>Source: <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/GlennF/status/121434638282530816" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/GlennF/status/121434638282530816</a>
solutionyogiover 13 years ago
That's a really sad news.<p>He hasn't deleted his Hacker News Account yet. He last commented 27 days ago.<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=MarkPilgrim" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=MarkPilgrim</a><p>[I loved his blog and I wish someone has archive for it. I did not archive it locally because Mark used to write articles about long term archival of his data and I didn't think he would ever delete all his public writings.]
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robbiet480over 13 years ago
Jason Scott of textfiles.org has called his local police department for a welfare check...<p><a href="https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121430050930298880" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/121430050930298880</a>
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wooswiffover 13 years ago
As pointed out by user mikelietz on Eric Meyer's site, <a href="http://firehose.diveintomark.org/" rel="nofollow">http://firehose.diveintomark.org/</a> is still up.
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adriandover 13 years ago
I really hope Mark is okay, and I'm really going to miss Dive Into HTML5. That resource had a truly unique writing style, featured a great design, and was an a absolute treasure trove of valuable information. I was literally on the site just yesterday, reading up on local storage.
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andyflemingover 13 years ago
"Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring."<p>Source: <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440</a>
WALoeIIIover 13 years ago
_why 2.0.
esiglerover 13 years ago
Similar (though not as extreme) behavior has occurred in the past:<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001259/http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20110726001259/http://diveintomar...</a>
itsnotvalidover 13 years ago
Perhaps he read this<p><a href="http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/the-upside-of-quitting-full-transcript/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/09/30/the-upside-of-quittin...</a><p>(discussion at: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3071854" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3071854</a> )
pingsweptover 13 years ago
There's a precedent for this. He disappeared from his blog for a while in 2004. Check the Google cache: <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:diveintomark.org/archives/2004/10/18/exit" rel="nofollow">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:diveint...</a>
kyleslatteryover 13 years ago
<a href="http://diveintohtml5.com/" rel="nofollow">http://diveintohtml5.com/</a> seems to still be working
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artursapekover 13 years ago
Holy shit, I was just using "Dive Into HTML5" at a hackathon this weekend. It helped a ton, I loved the way that site was designed. This is eery.
nostromoover 13 years ago
&#62; Is Mark Pilgrim pulling a disappearing act?<p>Shouldn't we respect his wishes? If he wants to pull the plug on his online identity, he should be allowed to do so without HN sending out an internet search squad.
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tunaover 13 years ago
10/4 - never forget. the gayest day on the interwebs. everyone acting like old ladies towards a grown man. [eagle_cries]
sudonimover 13 years ago
Maybe he and _why are in Galt's Gulch? (Any Atlas Shrugged fans?)
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sharemeover 13 years ago
Respect his wishes, even his google accounts/profiles gone..<p>As far as I know he is still working at Google
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alnayyirover 13 years ago
He's making recompense for making JDBC part of the first exercise in a Python book.<p>He'll return from the self-flagellation in two years after some time spent at a monastery.<p>I fully expect his enlightenment will bring much into the world of programming.
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