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Why Big Nations Lose Small Wars (Paper, 1975) [pdf]

60 pointsby hkcabout 3 years ago

8 comments

oneoff786about 3 years ago
The war in Ukraine is the strangest war history has ever seen. A much, much larger opponent with shockingly incompetent leadership and preparation invades a smaller country that has been aggressively preparing for exactly this outcome, armed with the support of many of the world’s strongest economic and military suppliers’ middle tier gear and top tier intelligence.
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donpottabout 3 years ago
Maybe a "[1975]" tag is in order, to better indicate that it doesn't refer to current events?
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dimitarabout 3 years ago
This is a paper on insurgency, not conventional wars between nations like the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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wins32767about 3 years ago
Bigger nations have (rightfully!!) stopped being willing to kill or enslave everyone if there is any form of uprising or resistance. It's not like the Gauls or the British or the Jews didn't try to rise up against the Romans, or Native American groups against the US, they were just incredibly brutally put down.
thatguy0900about 3 years ago
I wonder if really winning a war and properly suppressing its people long term just requires a level of barbarism towards its populous that countries can no longer do? It certainly seems that the "winning hearts and minds" approach didn't really accomplish anything.
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danamitabout 3 years ago
Russia is only &quot;losing&quot; because they can&#x27;t justify being barbaric to the world, US justified that with fighting terrorism, so &quot;collateral damage&quot; was allowed.<p>I lived enough that I made it to 2021 to see that even Israel starting to care about that, when they let people know what buildings they are targeting before launching the attack.
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nimbiusabout 3 years ago
I managed to get through the PDF and it certainly dances around the vietnam war. Stanfords shouldering the bulk of the wound-licking here as vietnam ended in futility in 1975, which is a little early for a comprehensive academic assessment if you ask me. the article also flogs &#x27;asymmetry&#x27; to the point of using it to scapegoat US culpability of leadership. Congress and Senate couldnt agree on a daily basis what to target or when to attack, and insisted on the micromanagement of the entire affair in some cases to a deleterious objective of just &quot;fighting the communism&quot; and &quot;winning&quot; without any meaningful performance indication. conscripting americans resulted in desertion and decline of morale to the point most soldiers didnt care, and lying to the public about casualty and progress made it equally untenable at home.<p>im sure after defeat it was comforting to consider it a small war, but it wasnt. vitenam had the full backing (albeit proxy) might of the soviet union. it killed or wounded nearly 200,000 US troops and at a surge point of 3.5 million enlisted troops spelled the precipitous decline of enlistment to less than half that number over the next five decades.
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ipaddrabout 3 years ago
Today Russia is forcing oil payments in rubbles to unfriendly countries. This will shore up their currency and with the price increase in oil I&#x27;m not sure Russia is losing the economic war.<p>Military wise they are afraid to go in and out right kill and level cities which is how they normally wage war. It makes sense because they share a genetic history where they had no issue leveling separatist southern provinces when needed.
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