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Teclis – Non-commercial web search

239 pointsby samcrawfordabout 3 years ago

29 comments

dbreretonabout 3 years ago
Lots of great new search engines popping up that search the rest of the web that Google tends to ignore.<p>Other ones worth checking out include:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.marginalia.nu&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.marginalia.nu&#x2F;</a> (A non-commercial search engine)<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiby.me&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiby.me&#x2F;</a> (Tends to have those really weird and cool indie sites)<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;searchmysite.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;searchmysite.net&#x2F;</a> (An index of personal websites)<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;indieweb-search.jamesg.blog&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;indieweb-search.jamesg.blog&#x2F;</a> (Search IndieWeb websites)<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;millionshort.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;millionshort.com&#x2F;</a> (Ignore the first million results from Google)
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freediverabout 3 years ago
Hey all - creator here. It looks like next page of results does not work currently because wrong query param (should be &quot;q&quot; instead of &quot;topics&quot;). Easy enough to manually change if you need it.<p>As a few of you noticed, narrow searches do not work very well because this is not a general web search engine and has a tiny index compared to Google. Use Teclis to discover more about a broader topic you are interested in and to discover writing from &#x27;clean&#x27; websites on the web.<p>Looking forward to feedback to improve!
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researchersabout 3 years ago
Really great work! It is exciting that people are working on alternative indexes of content, especially ones that prioritize content written by individuals for smaller audiences. The uBlock heuristic is an interesting way to capture that.<p>Matches well with our thesis we wrote about here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;re-search.xyz&#x2F;writing&#x2F;mapping-the-new-world-towards-a-new-information-engine" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;re-search.xyz&#x2F;writing&#x2F;mapping-the-new-world-towards-...</a><p>Disclaimer: We’re a research group that is also working on a new kind of search engine. Our approach is a little different though. We think that information is now scattered across different semi-open silos, so the future of search will not look like a search bar and ten blue links to web pages.
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paxysabout 3 years ago
&gt; The way detection works is we count the number of uBO blocked requests on the page, and if too many (threshold is set to 5), we kick it out, leaving only &quot;clean&quot; pages in the index.<p>I&#x27;m genuinely surprised there were <i>any</i> pages left to crawl.<p>Unfortunately this also kicks out genuinely useful blogs and other pages that are otherwise helpful but happen to be using a platform or framework that makes a few block-worthy requests.<p>I can&#x27;t figure out if all of Wikipedia is in the removed set or just ranked too low to show up in results. On the browser, the site seems clean.
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robmerkiabout 3 years ago
This is such a fantastic search engine. Obviously not perfect, but the search results are information rather than blogspam&#x2F;ads&#x2F;etc. Breath of fresh air.<p>Funnily enough I somehow ranked #1 for &quot;ADHD&quot; but I don&#x27;t know what&#x27;s particularly special about my landing page. Does your crawler look prioritize&#x2F;crawl HN by any chance?
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orthecreedenceabout 3 years ago
This is a really cool concept. Reminds me of the old(er) days when the web was a bit quieter and there wasn&#x27;t an entire apparatus designed to steal your attention and focus.<p>This seems like a really good way to do research as well: people offering information without the expectation of getting paid for it.
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qweryabout 3 years ago
This is the first time I&#x27;ve tried Teclis and it was a very positive experience. Always happy to see anything new in this space (search <i>engineering</i>?) and this seems particularly aligned with my interests.<p>My queries didn&#x27;t get (obviously) mangled behind the scenes! Thank you for treating me with respect. Having said that, Teclis doesn&#x27;t seem to treat alternate spellings of &#x27;-ise&#x27; words (e.g. normalise&#x2F;normalize) as equivalent -- this is one case of auto-correction that I do appreciate in other search engines.<p>I just noticed the semantic search mode tip. I haven&#x27;t tried it yet, but I like that it&#x27;s not the default way to interpret my query.<p>I found it easy to find &quot;technical&quot; results and even (relevant) websites that I&#x27;ve never seen or heard of within the first ~10 hits. I wonder about the link between &quot;non-commercial&quot; as Teclis defines it and authentic, non-abusive, or otherwise desirable search results.<p>Also good:<p>- I didn&#x27;t need to turn on javascript.<p>- clear info on the front page (the info itself and the fact that it&#x27;s right there)<p>- results are actual normal links<p>- result snippet is normal selectable text (not a giant link)
fxtentacleabout 3 years ago
Yay! Finally a good alternative search index :)<p>Plus I&#x27;m impressed that kagi.com teclis.com and the Orion browser is all the same guy ^^<p>EDIT: And &quot;Kagi was created in 2018 and is running on tight budget, bootstrapped by the founder&#x27;s funds from the previous exit. &quot;
u2077about 3 years ago
Bookmarked! I found <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;c3js.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;c3js.org&#x2F;</a> which is exactly what I want for my personal project. I also found <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;javascriptdata&#x2F;danfojs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;javascriptdata&#x2F;danfojs</a> which looks interesting as well. All within 2 searches.
sixhobbitsabout 3 years ago
Love the idea. The first few things I searched had very few results, and when I got into more &#x27;mainstream&#x27; topics, I was surprised to still see Quora et al in the results (I get a &quot;7&quot; flag on my uBlock icon when I visit I Quora page so I&#x27;m not quite sure how that ties in the with &#x27;5&#x27; threshold mentioned on the homepage).
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SahAssarabout 3 years ago
Does this also exclude wikipedia? One of the first queries I usually try on search is literally &quot;test&quot;, and I usually expect a wikipedia article for testing (either as an assessment or a scientific test or a programatic test) on page 1 or 2, but here there was none.
metadatabout 3 years ago
The results seem crappy to me, teclis found what I wanted zero percent of the time.<p>Hopefully they can keep iterating and improving this; a new entrant to Search is always welcome!<p>Because we <i>desperately</i> need something better and more useful than Goggle. It&#x27;ll take a paradigm shift, for sure.
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tejohnsoabout 3 years ago
I just want the old Google search back. It&#x27;s very frustrating when I submit a search term within quotes and I get back a bunch of pages that don&#x27;t contain that term.
WhitneyLandabout 3 years ago
Beyond search results, a significant amount of googles value is in its “apps”, or whatever they call the functional snippets like calculator, translator etc. built into the engine.<p>I wonder if it would make sense to have cross platform plug-ins, so that all of these interesting nascent search engine efforts could automatically benefit from new plug-ins and an ecosystem could start to develop.<p>It’s great to have an alternative but obviously it’s such a huge effort the efficiency of development will be important.
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axleeabout 3 years ago
Does not seem to be usable even for basic searches. Also, no https?<p>Examples:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=angular+" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=angular+</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=ANGULAR+DOCS" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=ANGULAR+DOCS</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=angular+documentation" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=angular+documentation</a>
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weird-eye-issueabout 3 years ago
I hate to say it but for &quot;best laptop&quot; I&#x27;d rather get a typical SEO affiliate result than a 4 year old article talking about why they think MacBooks from 10 years ago were the best laptop.<p>The fact is &quot;best laptop&quot; is what&#x27;s called a commerical intent query where people are looking to make a purchase. They want recent results and recent products, not informational articles
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mbestoabout 3 years ago
Someone needs to create a search engine specifically for products and services. One thing I end up doing is searching places like reddit.<p>&quot;cool shirts for summer&quot; and then search places like Reddit, fashion forums, etc. basically all areas where UGC is relatively authentic. And then toggle it for &quot;paid for blogs&quot;, like strategist, wirecutter, rtings, etc.
weinzierlabout 3 years ago
First page results are interesting, paging to the second page gives me a:<p>&quot;A query would help :-)&quot;<p>One thing I noticed playing with Teclis is that it gives useful results for <i>&#x27;A vs B&#x27;</i> queries. I don&#x27;t know a single other search engine that still delivers remotely useful results for this type of query.
drusepthabout 3 years ago
I know it&#x27;s not meant for narrow results, but I still chuckled a bit when searching my own nick surfaced an entire serp with nothing but unrelated blog posts about being dyslexic. Wonder if it&#x27;s just because &quot;drusepth&quot; sounds similar enough to &quot;dyslexic&quot;?
cornyabout 3 years ago
Really like the design of this. Best search results layout I&#x27;ve seen since the old days of google.
hrgigerabout 3 years ago
* Fun Challenge Find a query that has only one result in Teclis! Then read that page.<p>I think found one but failed to read that (which?) page.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=sysadmin+horror+stories" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=sysadmin+horror+stories</a>
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kadenwolffabout 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t think anyone&#x27;s mentioned it yet but I like the name!
______-_-______about 3 years ago
Fun bug, searching for the letter e crashes the site<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=e" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;teclis.com&#x2F;search?q=e</a>
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narratorabout 3 years ago
It badly fails the &quot;which countries are using ivermectin&quot; test I use to evaluate search engines. Yandex does the best.
account42about 3 years ago
Seems like it drops keywords in some cases and returns results that only match part of the query. Please don&#x27;t do this.
zitterbewegungabout 3 years ago
Doesn’t work when I try to search for 14.2 MacBook Pro reviews . Gave me some links to 2018 MacBooks . Might be the ublock filter.
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rpastuszakabout 3 years ago
Hm…<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;BToBnun" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;BToBnun</a>
neyaabout 3 years ago
Does anyone know of a decent search engine that searches and shows results of only vintage type sites - you know, the ones built with the old school HTML tables or frontpage kind of stuff? Often, these are the most valuable in content, with less promotional bullshit like a random popup asking to signup for a newsletter or perhaps some dubious GDPR notice with all personal data collection toggles set to &quot;off&quot;.
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baud147258about 3 years ago
where does the name come from?