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95 pointsby adamrmcdabout 3 years ago

14 comments

nkurzabout 3 years ago
For those less comfortable reading Oji-Cree, CBC has helpfully published a translation in English: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;canada&#x2F;thunder-bay&#x2F;first-person-rochelle-bragg-reclaiming-language-1.6371587" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;canada&#x2F;thunder-bay&#x2F;first-person-roch...</a>
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twicabout 3 years ago
Wow, Go generics really have got complicated.
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__sabout 3 years ago
An aunt who teaches Ojibwe was showing me how the alphabet uses symmetries for its phoenetics <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kercstore.com&#x2F;product-page&#x2F;ojibwe-syllabic-chart-eastern-finals-with-phonetics" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kercstore.com&#x2F;product-page&#x2F;ojibwe-syllabic-chart...</a>
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torstenvlabout 3 years ago
I feel like there&#x27;s a deep deep tragedy in the loss not just of individual languages, but of entire language families.<p>While it&#x27;s sad that a language like Auvergnat will likely die in a generation or two, it almost feels like less of a loss because other Langue d&#x27;Oc languages will likely survive (e.g., Gascon probably).<p>But the northern (a)nishn[aabe|abe|ini]m(o)w[e|i]n languages (Ojibwe, Oji-Cree, Odawa, Chippewa, etc.) are so much more endangered, have so little learning material, <i>and</i> are fragmented, making a concerted effort to save any one of them almost doomed to failure, let alone all of them.<p>I&#x27;m not saying linguistic ethnicide is acceptable, just that linguistic genocide is so so much more heartbreaking. An entire line of peoples will lose their connection to their ancestors in just a generation or two.<p>My step-father was Odawa. He never spoke it. But I try to study it some, to honor his memory. The Nishnaabemwin Reference Grammar and Odawa Language and Legends book are... helpful but hardly sufficient.
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robocatabout 3 years ago
There is a recording “Rochelle Bragg speaks Oji-Cree”.<p>I can hear she speaks it with a massive USA accent, even though I don’t know squat about Oji-Cree. It is weird how we can hear an accent even without knowing anything about a language.
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armagonabout 3 years ago
Interesting. I&#x27;ve been looking up at setting up Internet-in-a-box for a what-if scenario (ex. what if people can charge their phones but have no internet access), and am amazed that you can download wikipedia in well over a hundred languages.<p>I wondered, after getting the key languages spoken here (English being #1 by far) about Blackfoot, but see that there is no version of Wikipedia in that language. I wonder if they have any first nations languages (and yes, I understand that it depends on volunteers writing the articles in those languages, and that they almost certainly speak English better).
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legostormtrooprabout 3 years ago
I have noticed an unsettling trend in journalism towards self-referential piece. In this article the author refers to &quot;I&quot;, &quot;Me&quot; or &quot;My&quot; over 50 times. Despite being on a news site, yhis isn&#x27;t a journalistic piece - its a blog post that just serves to allow the author to talk about themselves (framed around some topic).<p>This article could have been about any topic, and the tone wouldn&#x27;t change - as the bulk talks about the author themselves.
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kderbymaabout 3 years ago
I feel like articles like this could really benefit from a translated reader function. allowing one to simultaneously swap between languages and get phrases
timonokoabout 3 years ago
&quot;Invented by white christian missionary James Evans around 1840&quot;.<p>There seems to be no historical background or linguistic reason whatsoever?<p>Except there is this one reason: when English- (and French) -speakers made the phonetic writing system for Latin alphabeth, it became batshit crazy and quite unreadable.
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mmweltabout 3 years ago
Books &amp; videos in Cree Plains:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jw.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;library&#x2F;?contentLanguageFilter=crk-x-cys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jw.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;library&#x2F;?contentLanguageFilter=crk-x-c...</a>
trinovantesabout 3 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised obscure languages like Oji-Cree have unicodes<p>As more human languages go extinct, I wonder if people in the future will forget where some unicodes come from and if they will try to repurpose some codes
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junonabout 3 years ago
This language looks cool as hell. Is it difficult to learn?
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fortysevenabout 3 years ago
Thought this was about Earthbound at first.
willciprianoabout 3 years ago
I for one welcome our alien overlords and want to let them know that I am available if they require any information on humanities weaknesses.