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Stanford prof calls police after whistleblower exposes $5000/hour gov. contacts

73 pointsby pain_perduabout 3 years ago

8 comments

version_fiveabout 3 years ago
This seems like an agitator trying to raise a fuss, not a &quot;whistleblower&quot; (I guess maybe that&#x27;s how the term is used now). I&#x27;d encourage people to read the surrounding tweets, he looks like someone who wants to be outraged about something more than a brave soul calling out some malfeasance.<p>That aside, if this money is for facilitating sessions, as another comment implies, it is perfectly reasonable. The facilitator has to prepare, follow up, etc. and is presenting to a group. I&#x27;ve done these kind of sessions and that rate is not high. The per hour of facilitation time is a meaningless way to look at it. For all I know, maybe there is something untoward going on, but the usual racial outrage we see in the tweets, and the inflammatory, clickbait headline certainly dont make any kind of case
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sgdjgkeirjabout 3 years ago
See also <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;berkeley&#x2F;comments&#x2F;tx0zot&#x2F;jelani_nelson_eecs_professor_at_cal_has_been&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;berkeley&#x2F;comments&#x2F;tx0zot&#x2F;jelani_nel...</a> and<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;boazbaraktcs&#x2F;status&#x2F;1511366075035922439" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&#x2F;boazbaraktcs&#x2F;status&#x2F;1511366075035...</a><p>for context
cato_the_elderabout 3 years ago
I think the headline is misleading. Based on the linked tweet, it seems that it should be &quot;<i>threatens</i> to call the police&quot; or something like that.<p>It&#x27;s still quite ridiculous though. She kinda seems to be the Doctor Oz of math education.
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whimsicalismabout 3 years ago
The existing replies to this are disheartening.<p>Regardless of what you think of the merits of Jelani&#x27;s critique, it does not justify calling the cops on him. &quot;Siccing&quot; a twitter mob (something I question whether he really has) is not nearly as bad as &quot;siccing&quot; the government gun guys.
subjectsigmaabout 3 years ago
Super misleading title, I definitely thought reading it that she called 911 and the &quot;whistleblower&quot; had an actual confrontation with the cops. Instead she mentioned in an email she was seeking legal counsel after being subjected to what she felt was harassment, and that involved talking to the police.<p>Not entirely sure about the details but this dude is extremely suspect. Every single tweet he tries to paint himself as a victim by using charged and misleading words. &quot;You can&#x27;t call the police on Black people!&quot; is just such an outrageous thing to say in situation which has nothing to do with race and which you didn&#x27;t interact with the police at all.
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prependabout 3 years ago
It seems an odd complaint that the author publish a paper without any black co-authors. Why is that noteworthy?
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zenexerabout 3 years ago
For anyone interested, this appears to be the document in question: [1]<p>If I understand correctly, that version of the document specifies $5k&#x2F;session, with each session being 2 hours. However, there seems to be an amendment that changes the compensation to $5k&#x2F;hr ($10k&#x2F;session).[2]<p>These are public files linked from Oxnard School District&#x27;s website under &quot;Board Meeting Agendas&quot;--in particular, the August 4 2021 Regular Board Meeting,[3] page 375. I&#x27;m confused as to how this could be construed as private information when it&#x27;s quite clearly a public document published by the school district.<p>Aside: Don&#x27;t send emails like this. If you find yourself writing terms like &quot;lawyer&quot; and &quot;police&quot; in an email intended to express your dissatisfaction with someone else&#x27;s decisions, pause. Revisit it tomorrow.<p>Furthermore, if you&#x27;re a public figure or are otherwise in the spotlight, consider that the majority of the people reading your email will not be those to whom it is explicitly addressed. It will be read--and judged--by the public. Write your messages as though you will be reading them on a stage in front of an audience.<p>Everyone lets their emotions get the better of them from time to time, and everyone makes mistakes--but if you&#x27;re being paid $5k&#x2F;hr, those mistakes had better be exceedingly rare.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;legistarweb-production.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;attachment&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;990191&#x2F;_20-97_Agreement__Signed__-_Jo_Boaler__Math_PD___DeGenna-Prater_.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;legistarweb-production.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;atta...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;legistarweb-production.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;attachment&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;990190&#x2F;_20-97_Amendment__1_-_Jo_Boaler__Math_PD___DeGenna-Prater_.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;legistarweb-production.s3.amazonaws.com&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;atta...</a><p>[3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.oxnardsd.org&#x2F;site&#x2F;handlers&#x2F;filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=24956&amp;dataid=23535&amp;FileName=Full%20Agenda%20-%20August%204%202021%20Regular%20Board%20Meeting.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.oxnardsd.org&#x2F;site&#x2F;handlers&#x2F;filedownload.ashx?mod...</a>
trinovantesabout 3 years ago
Streisand effect strikes again!
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