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DDG: We are not “purging” any media outlets from results

33 pointsby EastSmithabout 3 years ago

8 comments

djanogoabout 3 years ago
&quot;Unlike independent media, Russian state-sponsored media is highly censored and violations are punishable by jail time or worse. This makes it inherently more spammy relative to independent media. The same is true for all censored media.&quot;<p>US media is also heavily state biased, even worse, pharmaceutical companies sponsor media. Government controlled media is not &quot;inherently spammy&quot;, sure it&#x27;s very biased, but it&#x27;s disingenuous to censor them under spam guise.<p>The media that he believes in, and controls who needs to be censored is &quot;unbiased&quot;.
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Trouble_007about 3 years ago
<i>&gt;Gabriel Weinberg @yegg Apr 17, 2022 · 10:18 AM UTC Hoping to clear up some misconceptions about our private search engine. First, there is a completely made up headline going around this weekend. We are not &quot;purging&quot; any media outlets from results. Anyone can verify this by searching for an outlet and see it come up in results. Similarly, we are not &quot;purging&quot; YouTube-dl or The Pirate Bay and they both have actually been continuously available in our results if you search for them by name (which most people do). Our site: operator (which hardly anyone uses) is having issues which we are looking into. We are not and have never been owned by Google, and we also don&#x27;t rely on Google&#x27;s results for any of our search results. We have been an independent company since our founding in 2008. We don&#x27;t track our users so don&#x27;t have any search histories and therefore cannot alter results based on search history. This is different from &quot;unfiltered&quot; because every search engine&#x27;s job is to filter millions of possible results down to a ranked order of just a handful. Search ranking and censorship are entirely different things. We make our results useful by ranking spam lower. We are not ranking based on any political agenda or my (or anyone else&#x27;s) personal political opinions. We are also not assessing any individual news stories. Unlike independent media, Russian state-sponsored media is highly censored and violations are punishable by jail time or worse. This makes it inherently more spammy relative to independent media. The same is true for all censored media. Our product vision is much more than private search: it&#x27;s the &quot;easy button&quot; for privacy in one app. Today it&#x27;s an everyday browsing app with built-in private search, tracker blocking, HTTPS upgrading, button, email protection, and (for Android) app tracking protection.&lt;</i>
BirAdamabout 3 years ago
I don’t buy his line. As others have mentioned, picking one country’s state media or corporate media over another’s is bias, no matter the rationalization.<p>I would stop using DDG, but I am not yet aware of anything better…
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cato_the_elderabout 3 years ago
Sure Jan, you are NOT purging media outlets, but merely &quot;down-ranking&quot; &quot;spam&quot;.<p>Also, you didn&#x27;t purge Youtube-dl from the results, you merely gave them porn-like status: you have to explicitly search for it by name.
Trouble_007about 3 years ago
Gabriel Weinberg, @yegg CEO &amp; Founder @DuckDuckGo - Nitter : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;yegg&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;yegg&#x2F;</a>
usrnabout 3 years ago
That they said they will manipulate the results was enough for me to start using Yandex.
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privacykingabout 3 years ago
Sounds bullshit. Coincidentally I&#x27;ve noticed them shadow banning my searches from a VPN with fake error messages. Go figure.
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patrick451about 3 years ago
Telling us that the headline going around is &quot;completely made up&quot; and that DDG is &quot;not ranking based on any political agenda or my (or anyone else&#x27;s) personal political opinions&quot; is woefully disingenuous. On March 10, he himself tweeted<p>&gt; Like so many others I am sickened by Russia&#x27;s invasion of Ukraine and the gigantic humanitarian crisis it continues to create. #StandWithUkraine<p>&gt; At DuckDuckGo, we&#x27;ve been rolling out search updates that down-rank sites associated with Russian disinformation.<p>This just more gaslighting by the censors of the internet.
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