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Lufthansa’s European Union Strasbourg “shuttle”

92 pointsby elmaltoabout 3 years ago

16 comments

rbehrendsabout 3 years ago
The actual waste here is that while the European Parliament normally meets in Brussels, it is still bound by a 1992 decision to have a monthly session in Strasbourg [1]. This creates a huge and unnecessary overhead (shuttling 705 MEPs back and forth, maintaining separate offices in Strasbourg and other unnecessary duplication of efforts), of which this additional flight is just a small part. This could be fixed by deciding that the European Parliament meets in Brussels year-round.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Seat_of_the_European_Parliament_in_Strasbourg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Seat_of_the_European_Parliamen...</a>
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the_mitsuhikoabout 3 years ago
So while this flight sounds a bit ridiculous it&#x27;s not really. It takes of in Frankfurt and which is a big hub. You can buy a ticket VIE-&gt;FRA-&gt;SXB for 1000 EUR in Business class. It takes you three hours to get there. The cheapest ticket not involving a train in business class is 850 EUR so barely cheaper and takes 5.5 hours.<p>As to why the plane does not take passengers on the return flight: it&#x27;s a 30 minute flight and it&#x27;s probably more efficient for the airline to send the plane in that configuration back to Frankfurt as there is no demand for a business class only flight on that day out of Strasbourg. A plane that does not fly is losing money.
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sofixaabout 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t get the point of this flight. A train between the two will be around two hours, so an hour slower than the plane, but when you add travel to airports, it&#x27;s probably faster, and the trains are more comfortable (and you can work from them).
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bogomipzabout 3 years ago
It looks like there is a rail option between Brussels and Strasbourg which is just under 4 hours[1]. That&#x27;s four hours where you can work the entire time. With the boarding, flight time and travel time to and from the airport what is the actual time savings here 1 hour? And if you could work the whole time on a train it sounds like a non-issue since this schedule seems to factor in two of the 4 days as travel days. Also why Frankfurt? I realize Frankfurt is an airhub but why would this be a convenient location?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rome2rio.com&#x2F;map&#x2F;Brussels&#x2F;Strasbourg#r&#x2F;Train&#x2F;s&#x2F;0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rome2rio.com&#x2F;map&#x2F;Brussels&#x2F;Strasbourg#r&#x2F;Train&#x2F;s&#x2F;0</a>
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durnygburabout 3 years ago
Lufthansa will do everything to be profitable, except selling cheaper tickets and taking more passengers. Strategically they are the opposite of Ryanair.
meinersburabout 3 years ago
Some American Carriers have a lot shorter routes flying a lot more often [1].<p>Frankfurt &lt;-&gt; Strasbourg (220km) San Francisco &lt;-&gt; San Salito [2] (90km)<p>The point of these are connections. If you are already at the airport, checked-in, luggage registered, you can just as well take the flight closer to your destination. Not saying the makes ecological sense, but I don&#x27;t understand the outrage towards Lufthansa. Blame the MEP paying for these flights with your tax money and being bad role models contradicting the policies they are voting for.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thepointsguy.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;longest-shortest-united-flights&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thepointsguy.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;longest-shortest-united-flight...</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesstraveller.com&#x2F;business-travel&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;29&#x2F;new-san-francisco-santa-rosa-flight-shortest-us&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businesstraveller.com&#x2F;business-travel&#x2F;2017&#x2F;09&#x2F;29...</a>
lostloginabout 3 years ago
This flight seems very slow. I’ve just compared it to some short haul flights locally - 1hr 10 mins gets me 650km.<p>The flight in the article takes 55 minutes to go 178km. Short flights will have proportionally more time taxing etc, but this alone wouldn’t appear to explain it.
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netsharcabout 3 years ago
The EU should adopt this idea from Sweden from the 90&#x27;s^W 80&#x27;s, an office in a train carriage: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;3HbrI3refig" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;3HbrI3refig</a> (first 4.5 minutes)
rob_cabout 3 years ago
All reasonable until we slide over the custom plane config with extra business class...<p>I hope thats not a literal, we moved the seats for the aristocrats type of flight.
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kurupt213about 3 years ago
I don’t understand how airforce one got thrown out as another example of waste
melenaboijaabout 3 years ago
It seems EU politicians believe in climate change, until they have to catch a bus for a couple of hours…<p>BTW, I am a EU citizen worried about climate change and tired of recycling at home to sometimes see this kind of hypocrisy of some politicians.
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unmoleabout 3 years ago
&gt; In many cases these are high ranking government officials, and presumably if this flight didn’t exist, they might travel on private jets, which would be even worse; in order words, these people probably wouldn’t otherwise take a bus<p>Do MEPs really qualify as <i>high ranking government officials</i>?
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t_mannabout 3 years ago
Don&#x27;t blame Lufthansa, blame the EU institutions and the French government for creating this bizarre nomadism of EU parliamentarians.
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ZeroGravitasabout 3 years ago
I didn&#x27;t really understand the significance of this?<p>Does it only make sense if you believe what the top commenter believes:<p>“So when I see stories like this, it confirms that all this climate change nonsense is just that - nonsense. If it was really an issue, these flights wouldn&#x27;t exist.&quot;
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chrisseatonabout 3 years ago
&gt; Nearly two-thirds of the plane is business class<p>Why is European business class so absolutely terrible?
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macinjoshabout 3 years ago
These same people want to take away affordable heating from their constituents including the poor in the name of the &quot;climate emergency&quot;. Yet, they can take a plane (that pumps huge amounts of CO2 directly into the sky) twice a week for the distance some people commute by ground _everyday_ for work. Then they only work for two days a week. I&#x27;ve never seen a more disgusting display of elitism.
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