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Some notes on 'asshat' (2018)

205 pointsby hashamaliabout 3 years ago

29 comments

JacobAldridgeabout 3 years ago
An aside, but one of my more fun small pranks involved two fortune cookies in the office circa 2007.<p>I extracted the real fortunes, and inserted two of my own. When a friend dropped by, I handed him one and took the other.<p>His fortune read &quot;You are an asshat&quot;.<p>Which surprised him somewhat, differing as it did from the usual fare.<p>What blew him away was when I cracked my cookie and withdrew my fortune: &quot;Your friend is an asshat&quot;.
casionabout 3 years ago
The use of written word in these scenarios is always interesting to me. I have video of me and some friends using the word &quot;asshat&quot; predating their first recorded usage by almost a decade. (I have no idea why I remembered that video when reading this... but here it is on my hard drive)<p>Ironically in a similar context, a bunch of punk rockers talking about someone in a band we didn&#x27;t like!<p>I always wonder how many words have an etymology which predates written use significantly due to the &quot;class&quot; of people who use that word. This certainly seems to be a minor case at least.
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emptybitsabout 3 years ago
I have loved this word since I first heard it. I assumed it evolved out of the common expressions: &quot;get your head out of your ass&quot; or &quot;he&#x27;s got his head up his ass&quot;.<p>To me, this evokes an image of wearing one&#x27;s ass as a hat. I love the ridiculousness of picturing that.
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samatmanabout 3 years ago
Is the etymology actually obscure? I seem to recall it gaining currency in the warblog era (late but not lamented) and it&#x27;s a way of saying someone has their head up their ass. They&#x27;re wearing their ass as a hat.<p>I remember this being explained a lot in various comment sections where folks would yell at each other about the war. It&#x27;s hard for me to see this as folk etymology since afaik it&#x27;s where the word itself comes from. Someone should ask Instapundit.
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Wistarabout 3 years ago
My late father-in-law and his buddies used the expression &quot;uglier than a hat full of assholes,&quot; and I always assumed that &quot;asshat&quot; came from that. Guess I was wrong.
pohlabout 3 years ago
Another related word is &quot;assclown&quot; — which, as far as I can tell, was created accidentally when actor David Herman delivered a line of dialoge with emphasis on the wrong syllable while filming Office Space.<p>He was meant to call Michael Bolton a &quot;no-talent-ass clown&quot;, but delivered the line as &quot;no-talent ass-clown&quot;.<p>Or something like that. And now assclown is a thing.
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tlbabout 3 years ago
&gt; the etymological note we have describes the linking of ass and hat as “seemingly nonsensical”<p>What? It&#x27;s obviously a reference to having your head up your ass, thus turning your ass into a hat.
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indymikeabout 3 years ago
First time I ever heard it was in the US Navy, Circa 1994-ish. Was possibly the most perfect word to describe a particular junior officer who loved to walk around the barracks grounds and harass in-uniform sailors who failed to salute him. &quot;Oh, look it&#x27;s Ensign Asshat.&quot;
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markbnjabout 3 years ago
It&#x27;s been a long time, but I seem to recall the term being used to describe a specific animation performed over the head of a fallen enemy when playing MMOs like Asheron&#x27;s Call or Dark Age of Camelot, which I played a lot of circa 2001 or so.
golem14about 3 years ago
The article compares with a 15th century word ass-head, but IMO ass-hat is really meaning arse-head, and ass-head refers to the animal, making an ass-head closer to a stupid person, less a detestable and disagreeable one.
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pkambabout 3 years ago
I think its usage on the internet grew as an acceptable alternative to the banned word &quot;asshole&quot; on various message boards.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ksot.net&#x2F;banned&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ksot.net&#x2F;banned&#x2F;</a><p>&quot;Asshat&quot; also gives you plausible deniability for sneaking in &quot;ass&quot; + the past tense of &quot;shit&quot;. That&#x27;s how I&#x27;ve always read it.
PrimeDirectiveabout 3 years ago
There&#x27;s a Finnish stand-up comedian who also pondered on the many possibilities of the English word &quot;ass&quot;. This is him on Conan&#x27;s talk show: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;RAGcDi0DRtU" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;RAGcDi0DRtU</a><p>Funny enough, he mentions the same things the article does, especially the end of it.
adrianmonkabout 3 years ago
&gt; <i>the etymological note we have describes the linking of ass and hat as “seemingly nonsensical”</i><p>I always assumed an asshat is a person with their head up their ass, i.e. they are wearing it as a hat.
shagieabout 3 years ago
I first encountered this term while playing Kingdom of Loathing. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kol.coldfront.net&#x2F;thekolwiki&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;Asshat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kol.coldfront.net&#x2F;thekolwiki&#x2F;index.php&#x2F;Asshat</a> which puts it at somewhere in the 2005 or so timeframe when I encountered that term.
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AdmiralAsshatabout 3 years ago
Validation at last!
mkr-hnabout 3 years ago
This is the second Usenet-borne word I&#x27;ve seen enter the dictionary recently. I forget what the other one was, though I remember it had to do with graffiti and was popularized by rather than created on Usenet. I think we&#x27;re going to see this more and more over the next decade or three as slow-burning words from the early internet stumble into memes and discourse around major events.
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leocabout 3 years ago
For my money it probably started as a play on or corruption of ‘brass-hat’, the old unflattering slang word for a senior military officer.
deaddodoabout 3 years ago
&gt; It occupies the space between assez and asshead.<p>The fact that <i>asshead</i>, a word I can honestly say I&#x27;ve never heard used in any English dialect, merited inclusion before asshat, a word I&#x27;ve heard a dozen times this last week, boggles my mind.
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zdwabout 3 years ago
&gt; There is a profound difference between being in possession of a “sweet-ass hat” and a “sweet asshat”<p>Someone at MW has read: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;37&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;37&#x2F;</a>
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scotty79about 3 years ago
Here&#x27;s and interesting and fun take on similar words:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;RAGcDi0DRtU?t=120" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;RAGcDi0DRtU?t=120</a>
ggmabout 3 years ago
for some reason, asshole is ruder than asshat. I think the fundamental (hah!) thing here is that ass, and fanny are somehow not rude, but hole is.
rmatt2000about 3 years ago
Threads like this are why I come to HN.
livinginfearabout 3 years ago
My impression was always that the term connoted one who was wearing an ass as a hat, i.e. has their &quot;head up their&#x2F;an(?) ass&quot;. Which as many would already know is an English idiom connoting someone of poor manners.
bitwizeabout 3 years ago
Thought it came from Jeff K. on Something Awful, back when Something Awful was good.
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li2uR3ceabout 3 years ago
In case you need asshat quantified...<p>&gt; Statistics for asshat<p>&gt; Look-up Popularity<p>&gt;<p>&gt; Top 6% of words<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.merriam-webster.com&#x2F;dictionary&#x2F;asshat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.merriam-webster.com&#x2F;dictionary&#x2F;asshat</a>
loudmaxabout 3 years ago
My favorite occurrence of &quot;asshat&quot; was by Metafilter moderator jessamin in 2006 justifying her decision to remove a comment. A bad argument made in good faith deserves a response, but trolling does not. Jessamin said that when she deletes a troll comment she didn&#x27;t see the necessity in writing a letter explaining why:<p><i>Dear asshat, you&#x27;re being an asshat. I deleted your asshat comment. Please stop the asshattery. Love, jessamin</i><p>This non-letter was set to music by her Metafilter co-moderator cortex: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;music.metafilter.com&#x2F;480&#x2F;Please-Stop-The-Asshattery" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;music.metafilter.com&#x2F;480&#x2F;Please-Stop-The-Asshattery</a>
DoneWithAllThatabout 3 years ago
I’ve always associated this word with fark.com, I remember it being used frequently on that site around 2000.
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zapsabout 3 years ago
Jamey Jasta the poor man’s Mike Muir
themodelplumberabout 3 years ago
&gt; In the case of pronoun usage, it really comes down to: Are you being a nice person or an asshat?” — Steve Kleinedler (interviewed by Sarah Grey), Conscious Style Guide (consciousstyleguide.com), “Conscious Language in the American Heritage Dictionary,” 22 Feb. 2018<p>I had no idea this guide for not being an asshat existed. That&#x27;s pretty interesting and could help a lot of would-be asshats who don&#x27;t feel comfortable hiding in actions-not-words territory anymore.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;consciousstyleguide.com&#x2F;general&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;consciousstyleguide.com&#x2F;general&#x2F;</a>
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