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Ask HN: Why is HN so good with keeping quality posts up and the bad ones down?

13 pointsby anon115about 3 years ago

6 comments

vmceptionabout 3 years ago
They have an imperfect rate-limiting and shadowbanning system which has a decent average-case. It relies heavily on consensus, just a couple downvotes in succession will prevent you from responding or clarifying your position (which can easily flip consensus), and a couple posts like that will have your account shadowbanned forever.<p>This trips up new accounts pretty much instantly. And so new views don&#x27;t last, extreme views don&#x27;t last, and people that don&#x27;t know the community nuances and rules don&#x27;t last. There is also no way to recover from the bad states of an account. Once flagged, always flagged, it doesn&#x27;t have a cooldown method to revert you to normal status or build up into higher status. The shadowbanning keeps people busy as they don&#x27;t know that people don&#x27;t see their post for a long time. Slows them down in trying to circumvent the shadowbans. The mods do know when a user tries to circumvent a ban in a variety of ways, but don&#x27;t say anything until they act up again.<p>The average case and best case of this algorithm is that quality persists, because the community nuances and rules are quite good. The worst case is that its an echo chamber, but that&#x27;s not different than everywhere else. But at least those places acknowledge it. This place kind of sort of believes in the idea that non-consensus ideas can be presented &quot;substantially&quot; and they&#x27;ll survive, in practice that&#x27;s not very true.<p>In conjunction with all of that there is active moderation.<p>Also its against the rules to talk about the rules&#x2F;karma&#x2F;upvotes&#x2F;downvotes. So we&#x27;ll see.
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NaughtyShibaabout 3 years ago
This is basically a subreddit. Just with better quality of community. That’s why.
smt88about 3 years ago
You think it is because you agree with the average HN visitor and the mods.<p>There are people who sometimes complain that HN doesn&#x27;t tolerate dissent or certain topics.<p>I will say that the anti-spam measures work unusually well though. I believe it&#x27;s because of a lot of software tuning by the mods and aggressive community moderation.
the_only_lawabout 3 years ago
Half the interesting stuff gets lost in “new”.
markus_zhangabout 3 years ago
Community driven is the key I think.
jason0597almost 3 years ago
Let&#x27;s not forget the time where the 30% tax refund Apple misinformation spread like wildfire on the front page