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Monarch: Google’s Planet-Scale In-Memory Time Series Database

281 pointsby mlernerabout 3 years ago

12 comments

kasey_junkabout 3 years ago
A <i>huge</i> difference between monarch and other tsdb that isn’t outlined in this overview, is that a storage primitive for schema values is a histogram. Most (maybe all besides Circonus) tsdb try to create histograms at query time using counter primitives.<p>All of those query time histogram aggregations are making pretty subtle trade offs that make analysis fraught.
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pm90about 3 years ago
A lot of Google projects seem to rely on other Google projects. In this case Monarch relies on spanner.<p>I guess its nice to publish at least the conceptual design so that others can implement it in “rest of the world” case. Working with OSS can be painful, slow and time consuming so this seems like a reasonable middle ground (although selfishly I do wish all of this was source available).
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dijitabout 3 years ago
Discussion from 2020: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24303422" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24303422</a>
yegleabout 3 years ago
Google Cloud Monitoring&#x27;s time series database is backed by Monarch.<p>The query language is mql which closely resembles the internal Python based query language: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud.google.com&#x2F;monitoring&#x2F;mql" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud.google.com&#x2F;monitoring&#x2F;mql</a>
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codethiefabout 3 years ago
The first time I heard about Monarch was in discussions about the hilarious &quot;I just want to serve 5 terabytes&quot; video[0].<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI</a>
8040about 3 years ago
I broke this once several years ago. I even use the incident number in my random usernames to see if a Googler recognizes it.
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hintymadabout 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t quite get the benefit of pull model by default either. A pull model by default means that it&#x27;s not easy for a library to publish its metrics. For instance, every god damn application is expected to implement a `&#x2F;metrics` endpoint for a freaking agent to publish the application&#x27;s metrics to Prometheus. With Monarch, any library or application can simply publish metrics to Monarch&#x27;s API. Similarly in Netflix, publishing to its Altas system is totally transparent to library authors, with the help of their metric library.<p>Sometimes I feel many open source systems do not give a shit about productivity.
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candiddevmikeabout 3 years ago
Interesting that Google replaced a pull based metric system similar to Prometheus with a push based system... I thought one of the selling points of Prometheus and the pull based dance was how scalable it was?
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klysmabout 3 years ago
I don’t really grasp why this is a useful spot in the trade off space from a quick skim. Seems risky.
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nickstinematesabout 3 years ago
too small for me, i was looking more for the scale of the universe.
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cientificoabout 3 years ago
Offtopic: Could The web owner allow to zoom in, to see the content of the pictures?
sydthrowawayabout 3 years ago
Stop overhyping software with buzzwords
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