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New York Now Has More Airbnb Listings Than Apartments for Rent

71 pointsby plankersabout 3 years ago

9 comments

gruezabout 3 years ago
The title is trying to imply that airbnbs outnumber apartments, but directly comparing airbnb listings with apartment listings doesn't really make sense. There's basically a one to one relationship between an airbnb listing and an apartment that's used for airbnb. On the other hand for every apartment listing there might be tens/hundreds of apartments being used as apartments (because an apartment that's occupied tends not to be listed). In a tight rental market, each apartment gets snatched up sooner, which exacerbates this. A far more honest representation would say how much housing units are in NY, and how much % of that are being used for short term rentals (eg. airbnb), but that gets you a mundane number (eg. 10%) rather than a shocking headline.
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gbronnerabout 3 years ago
The 2019 rent control law rears its ugly head. Everyone wants more space post covid, but nobody wants to build or even allow more housing. So the small amount of free market housing goes through the roof, and anyone with an apartment that can get away with airbnbing it tries their luck.
ostenningabout 3 years ago
Some European cities that have a high occupancy percentage, like Berlin, have strict laws around temporary rentals with platforms like AirBnb. Rightly so, the city should have its longterm inhabitants occupying what little apartments exist as a priority over investment properties and tourists.<p>Additionally Airbnbs inject tourism money into the area but can have a detrimental effect on community cohesion as a whole
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Mountain_Skiesabout 3 years ago
Wonder how this works with the FHA underwriting requirement that mortgages in multifamily properties can only be written if 25% or less of the units are rentals. Having a revolving door of short term guests in a building upsets some long term residents but causing them to be unable to sell their property to anyone using an FHA loan is economically damaging.
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game_the0ryabout 3 years ago
I know a lot of tech folks who borrowed against their portfolios to buy property for an airbnb side hustle. I wonder how many folks in this thread did the same.<p>I told those people not to do it. If you are in the same situation, I advise you sell. Now.<p>Feel free to downvote this if you&#x27;re feeling hurt, angry, confused, etc.
dudusabout 3 years ago
Isn&#x27;t short term rentals banned in NYC?
paulryanrogersabout 3 years ago
Perhaps they should limit to one Airbnb per person, no corporate ownership, and no more than 6 months of the year.
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missedthecueabout 3 years ago
Sounds like more people want to visit NYC than live there if the market supports this type of situation.<p>Either way, the only way to satiate demand is to create more supply.
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hitovstabout 3 years ago
Part of the problem would be long term tenants are facing is of their own collective making. Well, that and regulations. That being the difference in experience when dealing with short term Airbnb tenants who are often on vacation, and long term tenants. The attitude is completely different. Unfortunately, long term tenants are too often adversarial. They feel entitled, and are apt to pursue litigation against you. They too often will attempt to dodge their liabilities, and leave them with the property owner &amp;&#x2F;or landloard. Short term, vacation, tenants appreciate the business. They even occasionally buy gifts, and send thank you cards. On top of that, they have a reputation at stake. Airbnb insulates the landlord from some issues. I know of landlord who had little, but noticeable, damage done to a nice couch by an Airbnb tenant, and one photo and email to Airbnb had the full price to replace to couch reimbursed. It couldn&#x27;t be any more different in trying to be made whole by ex-tenants without Airbnb in the middle.<p>Bad landlords get annihilated in real estate. Airbnb has solved a lot of issues for them. Unless an owner, or location&#x2F;property, precludes Airbnb for whatever reason, there isn&#x27;t a compelling case to not rent through them.<p>Maybe there is a market opportunity for a similar company but for long term rentals.
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