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Ask HN: Tips for Reducing the Number of Inboxes

78 pointsby jhylandsalmost 3 years ago
Does anyone have any tips for handling the fact that there is an ever growing number of apps to check messages on. I have to check linked in, email, texts, messenger, whatsapp, signal, telegram, slack etc Everyone seems to have their preference I have loads of friends who only use messenger, some who only use signal. As a dyslexic I find it super hard to keep up and end up missing and forgetting loads of things as a result. Does everyone just deal with it? Or is there a way to centralise my communication without hiring a pa?

23 comments

albertzeyeralmost 3 years ago
The EU is planning to require big online messaging services to be interoperable.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;3&#x2F;24&#x2F;22995431&#x2F;european-union-digital-markets-act-imessage-whatsapp-interoperable" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;3&#x2F;24&#x2F;22995431&#x2F;european-union-d...</a><p>This would solve it. Then you could simply use a single app.<p>This is a political thing. So, vote for it, talk to the politicians.
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skrebbelalmost 3 years ago
People like to diss email as a &quot;todo list that other people can add items to&quot;, but really, this holds for just about all communication channels.<p>So for me, what worked is to only use one channel (in my case, my work gmail) as a valid TODO-inbox. Everything else doesn&#x27;t count.<p>This means that if someone WhatsApps me something that requires a TODO, I ask them to email me a reminder. In my particular social situation, this tends to work. If they don&#x27;t want to do this, it&#x27;s probably not important enough<p>I keep my email itself clean by using Andreas Klinger&#x27;s classic gmail-TODO-setup (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;klinger.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;dont-drown-in-email-how-to-use-gmail-more-efficiently" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;klinger.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;dont-drown-in-email-how-to-use-gmai...</a>). That article is 9 years old now but it still works perfectly, despite Google&#x27;s reputation for killing niche apps&#x2F;features.<p>Then, I enable email notifications in key apps (eg Slack and GitHub), most of which I archive right away, but occasionally mark as a TODO using the gmail-TODO-setup. This means I never have a secondary &quot;unread message as TODO items&quot; list in slack, or similar in GitHub. It&#x27;s very nice.<p>Finally, I use &quot;Simple Gmail Notes&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bart.solutions&#x2F;simple-gmail-notes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bart.solutions&#x2F;simple-gmail-notes&#x2F;</a>) to add little notes to myself about what a TODO-email is about. eg &quot;review this&quot; or &quot;delegate to someone&quot;, etc.
theshrike79almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m just listening to a talk by Scott Hanselman about things like this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=IWPgUn8tL8s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=IWPgUn8tL8s</a><p>His solution: Schedule it. Reserve time in your calendar to check each of the sites based on urgency.<p>And if you don&#x27;t want to be contacted by some method, don&#x27;t reply using it. The best way to get more email is to send more email.
thenoblesunfishalmost 3 years ago
Things that have helped at least mitigate this problem include:<p>- For things which don&#x27;t spam you (e.g. messengers like Signal or WhatsApp), use similar settings for the various apps on your phone. If you don&#x27;t want a lot of noise, set them to show you unread messages as badges and put them on the front page of your phone<p>- For things which are used infrequently or do spam you, set up email alerts when possible (e.g. when someone @-mentions you on one of your thousand Slack workspaces), combined with email filters which put things in folders which you can check much like the badged apps.<p>- If a message comes in on a rarely-checked channel and you don&#x27;t get it for a long time, respond with an apology on a more preferred channel (e.g. a friend messages you on LinkedIn and you respond with an email or message on Signal).<p>- Accept that you have to let some messages slip through, and trust that your relationships can handle some people having to try a second channel to reach you, some of the time.
kkfxalmost 3 years ago
My personal is:<p>- own your own domain name, so you can transfer it as needed<p>- own your email, having as many aliases as you need<p>- download ALL your mails locally (fetchmail, OfflineIMAP, mbsync, ...) perhaps on a homeserver and use them in a local maildir with a local client, like notmuch, so you have a unified inbox for anything<p>- avoid proprietary messaging platforms and teach others to do the same<p>that&#x27;s works for me so far, surely many try to put pressure on me for WA, Slack etc but I always successfully decline. Anything is NOT ONLY centralized but also unified. In the same tool (Emacs&#x2F;EXWM) I have mails, feeds, usenet etc I do not like much Gnus but in that case I can also get HN and Reddit there, with the same UIs, local antispam, local scoring etc.<p>The tip is always the same: as any of us you feel the need of classic desktop model and we all miss it, but something we can still do to have some kind of substitutes :-)
thebiblelover7almost 3 years ago
I personally use Matrix and bridge all my social accounts to there. It works super well, because my friends don&#x27;t have to switch their app, but I see everyone in just <i>one</i> app. matrix.org&#x2F;bridges
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vivegialmost 3 years ago
I struggled with this a couple of years ago and then decided I will reduce the channels. Now I have email (asynchronous&#x2F;long-form&#x2F;personal&#x2F;professional), signal (personal networks) and linkedin (professional network). That&#x27;s it.<p>This has been very helpful for me and I no longer have the fear of missing out.<p>If it is important enough, people know how best to reach me.
holrialmost 3 years ago
I simply refuse to use a lot of those channels. Email is 90% of my communcation, almost everyone has it. People learn that I am responsive only by email.
thomas101almost 3 years ago
I faced a similar problem, a whole bunch of sites that all have their own unread items, notifications and so-forth.<p>I started writing a desktop app, Wavebox (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wavebox.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wavebox.io</a>) about 6 years ago to help me deal with this. It lets you add all your apps down the side of the window, each one with its own unread badge &amp; notifications. Might be something that&#x27;s helpful?
flanbiscuitalmost 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t have a perfect solution for you but this problem has been on my mind for a couple years now and I was calling it &quot;communication fatigue&quot;.<p>&gt; Does everyone just deal with it?<p>Basically, yes. In my case I just end up not stressing about responding to things in a timely manner. Outside of my work apps (outlook,slack,teams), I am the most responsive on email and Instagram chats but that&#x27;s mainly because I open and use that app on a daily basis. In Whatsapp, I mute any group chat that is too active because I don&#x27;t need distracting notifications every hours or less.<p>Do I miss things? yes, but I&#x27;ve never really missed anything super important and my friends know to shoot me a SMS text or use one of my more active mediums (instagram or gmail) to get in touch with me for important things.<p>The best I can say is just prioritize and train your friends&#x2F;family to know which medium you are most responsive in. Disable notifications on apps you barely interact with or mute very active individual chats that aren&#x27;t important
infinityplus1almost 3 years ago
Why do you have to check anything manually? Just install their apps and receive push notifications for them. You can also make the notifications silent to reduce distractions.<p>Or if your phone supports notification badges on icons, just place their icons on home screen and you&#x27;ll notice what app has updates by just checking the badge counts.
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endisneighalmost 3 years ago
just stop using all of those apps - done. Pick 2-3 and cut the rest.
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blfralmost 3 years ago
For personal needs, I settled on a single email account (Google Workspace) that pulls emails from all my other accounts (acts as an email client) plus Signal which also handles texts. As for people who use Facebook&#x2F;Messenger, WhatsApp, or Telegram, I just text them.<p>For professional needs, I&#x27;m also at a loss. I have Outlook, Slack, Signal&#x2F;texts, Jira notifications, Confluence notifications, LinkedIn, MS Teams... and then Zoom, Google Meet, and Webex but these are at least scheduled. I never come across anyone using WhatsApp, Telegram, or Facebook&#x2F;Messenger professionally but I&#x27;m sure it&#x27;s coming and will be a joy.<p>I have seen people happy with Beeper[1] but I&#x27;m neither willing to hand over my keys, nor self-host it.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeper.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.beeper.com&#x2F;</a>
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pSYoniKalmost 3 years ago
I just moved to Signal and told everyone I was going to do that. Some have followed and some haven&#x27;t. At a point I had 6 messaging apps to talk to 6 different people and it was untenable especially after moving to Graphene OS as I didnt want to run microg.<p>Those who havent migrated, well, not a huge loss and sone have switched over to email. Discussions also gained a bit more depth with the move to long-form writing. It really comes down to this - do you want to have fewer apps? then make the switch. Do you want to talk to everyone on their preferred platforms - continue as is. There are some apps that help mitigate this (I believe element can through addons) but I wanted to cut down not add complexity.
abendyalmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve actually increased the amount of inboxes (especially email). I label into category&#x2F;topic (eg finance) and sometimes sub-topic (eg taxes) inboxes based on sender or subject&#x2F;message content. It keeps my main inbox clean and easy to go through. Alert type emails (calendar invites, password resets etc.) stay in the main inbox.<p>I keep my work and tech inboxes open throughout the day. Things like news, finance&#x2F;markets, etc. I check every few days. Others I check whenever they&#x27;re relevant (taxes, cooking, entertainment etc.)<p>It took a lot of work to set up but it works well for me.<p>For message apps I just rely on the notifications.
revoradalmost 3 years ago
I’ve seen this service recommended by some people - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;texts.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;texts.com&#x2F;</a><p>I haven’t used it myself but might be what you’re looking for.
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simlanalmost 3 years ago
I have Blackberry Hub on my phone. I found it only marginally useful at first but it does integrate with all big services (if you have the apps installed) and centralizes the viewing of it. I am not a powers or use it very much but it available maybe you can check that out. Pretty sure there are other 3rd parties that do this little trick.
codingdavealmost 3 years ago
You know the advice that if a friend is only a friend because you are connected on Facebook, maybe you aren&#x27;t really friends? That same logic holds true if your relationships are dependent on any specific app.<p>Decide what you are comfortable keeping up with, and tell your tribe to use those methods to contact you.
jll29almost 3 years ago
Proprietary apps are only installed for exploratory purposes and may or may not be checked quarterly.<p>I&#x27;m on email. If you want to be my friend, use open standards. If you want to reach me, use email.<p>No, you can&#x27;t reach me on Facebook or WhatsApp. If you DM me on Twitter, I will say please email me.
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cipher222almost 3 years ago
I think using matrix you can link all your matrix app together and receive messages in one place
coffeeblackalmost 3 years ago
That’s what I use a phone for. You get all the different notifications from all the different apps in one notification stream.<p>Also, there is no reason why you couldn’t be one of those friends who “only use Signal”.
starik36almost 3 years ago
For me, the only need was using iMessage on non Apple devices. To solve that I am using a MacOS VM with AirMessage installed on it. It lets me access iMessage from a browser.
croisillonalmost 3 years ago
I use wupfh.com and get everything sent to the fax, much easier