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Hetzner subsea fibre cut outage

140 pointsby cainalmost 3 years ago

15 comments

daneel_walmost 3 years ago
This isn't Hetzner's own cable, and it's not just "any" cable - it's an Alcatel-Lucent + Cinia + EU project, with 150 terabits worth of bandwidth. It's a high profile target, but it's just as likely that it's just an anchor accident.
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caymanjimalmost 3 years ago
When I lived in Cayman, the main fiber link (Maya-1[0]) was down for about a week (anchor drag, I think). Most of the island Caribbean has limited backup connectivity. The whole island only has one fiber line (around the whole western&#x2F;southern Gulf of Mexico) and a crappy backup copper line to Jamaica. For a while, it was like being on a modem again. Forget about streaming anything.<p>This outage Hetzner is reporting isn&#x27;t a big deal due to robust backups, but these things can cripple a small island outpost.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.submarinecablemap.com&#x2F;submarine-cable&#x2F;maya-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.submarinecablemap.com&#x2F;submarine-cable&#x2F;maya-1</a>
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tincoalmost 3 years ago
Bitten by a shark, or snagged on a russian submarine? Whichever the case, I just ran an ansible deployment over our cluster that&#x27;s spread over their Frankfurt and Helsinki datacenters, and I didn&#x27;t notice any difference. I guess that&#x27;s to be expected, their line between those datacenters is just an optimization, the internet is still functioning as it always is and maybe Hetzner gets a slightly larger egress bill from their ISP as the inter-dc traffic gets rerouted the general internet.
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pchristensenalmost 3 years ago
If any part of this interests you, you must read &quot;Mother Earth, Motherboard&quot; by Neal Stephenson. It&#x27;s epic longform from the early Wired.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;1996&#x2F;12&#x2F;ffglass&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;1996&#x2F;12&#x2F;ffglass&#x2F;</a>
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lordnachoalmost 3 years ago
Happens quite often to subsea cables. I was renting a number of them and every now and again you&#x27;d get a break. You can follow the NOC&#x27;s update emails:<p>Break detected<p>Ship has been commissioned<p>Ship is at harbor<p>Ship has sailed out to the cut<p>Fusing the ends<p>Service restored
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snsralmost 3 years ago
Best guess this is the cable based on Hetzner investment and landings:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.submarinecablemap.com&#x2F;submarine-cable&#x2F;c-lion1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.submarinecablemap.com&#x2F;submarine-cable&#x2F;c-lion1</a>
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bombcaralmost 3 years ago
I was today years old when I learned Hetzner has its own undersea cables.
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hericiumalmost 3 years ago
&gt; Recovery of the service is in progress (Last update: 2022-05-24 05:49 UTC+0)<p>&gt; There is currently an ongoing fibercut at our subsea cable. Our cable provider is working on fixing this. There is currently no ETA. (Last update: 2022-05-23 14:09 UTC+0)
lizardactivistalmost 3 years ago
The use of that cable is just to reduce latency. There are many other paths between their datacenters, so there won&#x27;t be any real breakage.
sizzzzlerzalmost 3 years ago
When something like this happens, does the traffic get distributed on other operational fibers that have sufficient unused bandwidth or do the operators fire up some dark fibers to carry the load? Or maybe it’s both?
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davidharirialmost 3 years ago
If, like me, you didn&#x27;t know how these get cut I&#x27;ll save you the trouble. The most likely cause is improper boat anchoring. Never shark bites.
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travisporteralmost 3 years ago
Can they somehow tell exactly where the cable was cut?
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sbf501almost 3 years ago
Is it one big horkin&#x27; cable that needs to be spliced by divers? Or is it hundreds of tiny little fibers?
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tiffanyhalmost 3 years ago
Dumb question: I thought TCP&#x2F;IP was designed to route around cut fibre cuts.
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jacooperalmost 3 years ago
Aha! That&#x27;s why my status server has been acting weird saying things were offline when they weren&#x27;t.