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macOS 13 Ventura dumps all pre-2017 Macs, including the “trash can” Mac Pro

69 pointsby cywickalmost 3 years ago

13 comments

cywickalmost 3 years ago
It&#x27;s really disappointing how aggressively they have started to drop macOS support for slightly older Macs.<p>Big Sur, which was released in Nov 2020, still supported the MacBook Air (2013) and the MacBook Pro (Late 2013). When Ventura is released only two years later, not even the MacBook Pro (2016) is supported, which was sold until Jun 2017. The fact that Ventura even drops support for a Mac that they sold until Dec 2019 (i.e., the &quot;trash can&quot; Mac Pro), is just mind-boggling.<p>I understand that they want to transition away from Intel Macs as fast as possible, but deprecating these Macs so aggressively is really terrible, both from a sustainability perspective and a consumer perspective.<p>I still keep a Mac mini (2011) around for guests to use for things that are not particularly sensitive (since it stopped receiving security updates a few years ago). It&#x27;s not the fasted machine by any stretch, but it is still perfectly fine for watching movies, browsing the web, and anything else that does not heavily tax the CPU.
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ChildOfChaosalmost 3 years ago
Bit disappointed to see my iMac 2015 dropped.<p>It&#x27;s got an i7 running at 4ghz, I paid for the graphics card update to 395x and 32gb of ram.<p>It still runs everything absolutely flawlessly. I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon. So hopefully will run the OS with a hack, as I don&#x27;t see what this OS needs better specs for, considering i&#x27;m sure lower spec machines can run it, so it&#x27;s just Apple cutting it off for being Apple.<p>Else then I hope to still get quite a few years out of this and will just have to deal with not having the latest OS anymore and hope the apps I want&#x2F;use will continue to run.<p>Else it&#x27;s back to Windows 10 for me, via boot camp.<p>I paid over 2 and a half grand for this machine, I want a longer life out of it particularly is it runs everything so incredibly flawlessly still. It doesn&#x27;t seem worth it to drop another large amount of cash on a new device, plus Apple don&#x27;t even do the 27&quot; anymore and i&#x27;m not sure I want to lose windows compatibility.
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exabrialalmost 3 years ago
The joke is Apple and its employees think they&#x27;re a &quot;green&quot; company.<p>These systems have a lot of life left in them.
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jiveturkeyalmost 3 years ago
Does pre-2017 also mean pre-T1? TFA mentions T2 is &quot;safe&quot;, and it was my first thought that anything pre-T1 was being nuked. Too bad they don&#x27;t mention that at all. 2017-2019 does feel like the T1 era, roughly.
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fomine3almost 3 years ago
It seems that this eliminates support prior to Kaby Lake. Is there any big difference between Skylake and Kaby Lake? Windows 11 does similar cut.
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m007850almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve run Monterey on my MacBook Pro Mid 2014 since the first betas using OpenCore Legacy Patcher. OTA updates work fine. Never had any issues.
Waveletsalmost 3 years ago
Damn, there goes my 2015 MBP…
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GiorgioGalmost 3 years ago
The end of Intel-based Macs is fast approaching.
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musicalealmost 3 years ago
This may be something of a warning before macOS goes Apple Silicon only.<p>Consider Apple&#x27;s transition from PowerPC to x86: the first intel Mac shipped in 2006; in 2008 Apple released Mac OS X 10.6&#x2F;Snow Leopard which was intel only.<p>In 2020 Tim Cook said the Apple Silicon transition would take about two years and that Apple would &quot;continue to support and release new versions of MacOS for Intel-based Macs for years to come&quot; - without specifying whether &quot;years&quot; is 2, 3, or more.
niklasbuschmannalmost 3 years ago
I really dislike this behavior from Apple. I had a first generation Mac Pro from 2006 which was able to run OS X 10.11 perfectly fine but officially only supported OS X 10.7. The reason was that this was the only Mac using a 32bit EFI so when they stopped compiling the boot.efi file for 32bit, newer OS X versions couldn‘t boot. Luckily it was quite simple to patch the boot.efi to 32bit.
devitalmost 3 years ago
Use desktop Linux, the only operating system that respects you and the usefulness of the hardware you own by supporting all hardware forever.
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trompalmost 3 years ago
I suffer from a similar issue. The current magic keyboards that Apple sells require MacOS &gt;= 11.3 while my 2017 iMac is stuck on MacOS 10.15. As a result, the media keys on my new keyboard don&#x27;t work.
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spacexsucksalmost 3 years ago
Heh. Where is the environment friendliness? Still rocking a 2014 MBP with $50 repairs after a spill that they quoted $1500 to fix. Fucking daylight robbers and goons