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Why criticizing Apple or Tesla is punished by fans on HN?

5 pointsby iostream25almost 3 years ago
One apparently cannot criticize Apple or Tesla products on HN without a vociferous contingent downvoting ones comment and invalidating any criticism a-priori, aka &quot;being a fan&quot; of a corporate product means that one must defend them, including silencing critics.<p>I can already see the gray color this post will appear in after the first downvote.<p>I notice that HN culture likes to call Reddit a cesspool of bad, however the voting dynamics here are arguably worse, and the passive aggression reminds me of the anonymity of Reddit filtered through LinkedIn-level &quot;self-awareness&quot; that only extends to defending group-think and not embracing actually rigorous technical standards where certain invisible power lines cross.<p>I get that it&#x27;s a startup-focused forum, particularly as it&#x27;s produced by ycombinator, however I don&#x27;t understand or accept the manner in which certain corporate products are &quot;praise-only&quot; mode. What gives?

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rvzalmost 3 years ago
Very good question.<p>From what I keep seeing in here, you are free to criticise certain topics but some of them which are about Linux (Desktop), Rust or Tesla, you will see that you&#x27;re going to be met with a storm of downvotes and a fury of aggressive defenders or fans on a crusade to defend their companies or projects to the death.<p>HN is still a cess-pool. Mention anything about supporting cryptocurrencies (coins not tokens) and you will see for yourself the beating up on anyone who &#x27;defends&#x27; a certain few of these projects, even the ones that do work or have a use case and the vengeance that they will bring to stamp out and punish anyone who doesn&#x27;t agree with the herd.
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beardywalmost 3 years ago
It&#x27;s down to emotional connection. We all do it on all sorts of things. Our online grocery shop yesterday had more than half with &quot;no substitution&quot;. In many cases that is just because that&#x27;s what we alway have. Something else wouldn&#x27;t be the same even if it might better.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hbr.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-new-science-of-customer-emotions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hbr.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-new-science-of-customer-emotions</a>
tlbalmost 3 years ago
There is plenty of criticism of these companies on HN. Thoughtful criticism is usually upvoted. But much of it has no more substance than yelling &quot;Booo!&quot;, which gets appropriately downvoted or flagged.
dustedalmost 3 years ago
I don&#x27;t recognize your observation.<p>It might be that the validity of the particular criticisms vary..<p>Tesla and Apple do bad stuff (lots of companies do) and they also do great stuff..