In the middle of building a self-hosting setup at home so I went ahead and installed this to give it a trial run. I generally like the interface and think it is a nice take on making self-hosting easier, but I have some pure stream of conscious criticism:<p>1. There sure are a lot of crypto apps. I'm not vehemently anti-crypto, but it is missing some "obvious" applications and full of those, so I'm curious what the play was there. They're all spread all over the place isntead of in a single category too. There are non-crypto finance apps that are self-hosted (Actual, BudgE, etc.), please don't mix them.<p>2. Plex and/or jellyfin stand out as huge misses right out of the gate.<p>3. I am surprised that it doesn't use nginx proxy manager with preset configs to make this all available from a single domain. Needs letsencrypt + a DDNS provider too while you're at it.<p>4. Why no blog/cms?<p>5. Can I give it the docker-compose config for an application not on the app store somewhere in GUI?<p>6. Wait, why is this accessible from Tor? And I can't turn it off? Nope nope nope.
This is a service I'm interested in, but by fuck is their website annoying. Instead of having stupid moving rectangles of services you can run on Umbrel, why not just display each service as a paragraph of text, with an icon next to it? No animations, and no rectangles moving across the screen.<p>These people have put a good deal of effort into their landing screen, unfortunately this effort has made it worse than it would have been if it was simple text descriptions. Please improve this.
If some one is going through the trouble of self hosting, why would they want to use a closed source proprietary OS to do it? Most of the apps available for this are open source, so why not host them on an open source system and not have any vendor lock-in?
While the product itself also looks interesting, I'd mainly want to congragulate the developers on their choice of licensing. While it might not be for everyone, there really needs to be a larger movement of exploring and upgrading OSS licensing models to better fit today's digital economy.
Looks great on first look, but on closer inspection saw that it's written in pure JavaScript (0% TypeScript) + Bash. Honestly makes me a bit worried about security. Now, I'm not so thrilled about it anymore...
Looks good, I have some questions.<p>Are security updates and DevOps automatic? How fine grained are the security updates i.e. Kernel level or app level? How long does it take end-to-end from CVE patch release to end user applying the update?
What does the backup experience look like? I feel like that is a major difficulty for people looking to self host, at least for me.<p>I would not want to lose my pictures, contacts or NextCloud files due to some update failure, hardware failure or my own mistake in managing the system.
Love it! Private self hosting but made easy for the people (like me) who don't want to spend hours setting it all up and keeping it up to date! Also the design looks amazing, finally some open source project with an actual designer haha<p>Btw can't sign up for the newsletter although tried multiple emails and disabled adblocker. Just says "Oops! Something went wrong. Can you please try again?"...
> Run your own node and achieve unparalleled privacy by connecting your wallet directly to your Bitcoin node. This ensures that your wallet company can’t spy on your transactions<p>Everybody can "spy" on your transactions by design, isn't it so? Isn't mixing the only way to go if you don't want everybody to see your entire shopping history?
It feels like it has a lot of shared territory with FreeNAS or Synology without the hardware.<p>What support, if any, is there for reading S.M.A.R.T. Stats, ZFS, and BTRFS? You mention CPU temps, but what about things that actually matter in regular use cases?
There is also <a href="https://freedombox.org/" rel="nofollow">https://freedombox.org/</a> .
A pure Debian Blend and also available as appliance. (Olimex A20 SBC)
I really enjoyed the landing page. I don't usually enjoy eye candy and loud designs, but this one works fine. Lots of visuals and lots of questions answered in direct ways. Great job!
Sorry, but with the focus on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, there's no way I'd ever be able to trust this product. Just going to their website, where that really slow image of a browser windows loading that says "good morning, satoshi" - just no.
If you are reading this please take a look at start9. <a href="https://start9.com/" rel="nofollow">https://start9.com/</a><p>The major problem with Umbrel is that even though they package all in one-solutions. If something goes wrong you rely on umbrel for issues (against decentralization). You will rely on their updates for any problems.<p>start9 built an linux os group up. all services are individually packaged from source.<p>umbrel packages all dependencies together (via docker container) which could causes issues for maintenace.<p>// start9 vs umbrel
<a href="https://youtu.be/kmfzATMxCj4" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/kmfzATMxCj4</a><p>// what is start9 embassy?
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfMvXJxYamw" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfMvXJxYamw</a>
Nice to see more competition in that space! I'm a long term happy user of <a href="https://unraid.net/" rel="nofollow">https://unraid.net/</a>, which I can very much recommend.
I see it offers home assistant. I wonder if you can also use the addon functionality in that as it's based on docker containers.. I assume umbrel uses docker too so it might conflict?
How does it do in terms of privacy and security? I would prefer to hide my IP address and also doubt I am competent enough to efficiently protect a server from hacker attacks.
This update showed up as soon as my 10 days old install sync with the BTC Blockchain: congrats!<p>I'm looking forward to some backup service - ideally one I can also self host offsite - but don't mind a sensible paid service. I assume the Blockchain itself doesn't need to be backed up but my apps data, yes.<p>I'd love to have another umbrel server being used as backup in case the primary one "goes down"
Great project, congrats! I have tried some of the homelab solutions. In some aspects the success of these projects depend on whether you keep testing and updating the docker compose files. Meaning: for years! You need a test environment to test the new versions of the apps as they come out. This can be quite a lot of work that many underestimate.
the cryptocurrency theme makes me want to avoid it as an immediate visceral reaction.<p>and I dabble in cryptocurrency.<p>I would suggest that you will struggle to grow in the mainstream with that theme.