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Luck Surface Area: How to Get Lucky In Life

105 pointsby fronterablogalmost 3 years ago

26 comments

orzigalmost 3 years ago
This article isn’t wrong, but it lacks a sense of cost effectiveness or trade-offs. Lottery tickets also increase your “surface area“ but they are transparently more expensive than they’re worth. Reasonable people can debate whether “build a reputation” or the other vague things this article advocates have positive or negative expected value, but this doesn’t really add to the conversation.
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thenerdheadalmost 3 years ago
The Seneca quote summarizes luck in my opinion.<p>&gt; Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.<p>Not every opportunity is an open door nor window. Those who can seize the opportunity create their own luck.<p>Newton said that whatever service he had rendered to humanity was not owing to any extraordinary sagacity he possessed, but solely to industry and patient thought. He wrote &quot;Principia&quot; with great care, and his great love of accuracy appears in all of his works.<p>In other words, Newton was prepared and took great care everyday to be accurate in the opportunity presented. It seems people call this &quot;luck&quot; like the article, but I think that&#x27;s the opposite of the definition.<p>&gt; success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one&#x27;s own actions.
lucideeralmost 3 years ago
This article isn&#x27;t wrong, but:<p>&gt; <i>there are four levels to it:</i><p>&gt; <i>1. Blind luck: This is what most people mean when they talk about luck. Where you were born, who your parents are, winning a lottery… Totally random.</i><p>&gt; <i>2. whatever</i><p>&gt; <i>3. whatever</i><p>&gt; <i>4. nonsense</i><p>Level 1 has an outsized influence insofar as: (a) it has significantly more impact than all of the others combined, and (b) it&#x27;s compounding since it also influences one&#x27;s ability to execute on #2 and #3 (#4 doesn&#x27;t exist&#x2F;make sense).<p>Don&#x27;t get me wrong, #2 and #3 are worth pursuing if you can. But the tone of the article strongly downplays the impact of #1 which I think is net harmful.<p>---<p>Speaking of the impact of #1, the article is also broadly about individualistic pursuit of &quot;luck&quot;, rather than any consideration of how the impact of #1 could be mitigated in the broader context. This is a bit off-topic I guess, but seems worth mentioning when thinking about the net benefit&#x2F;harm of an article from an ethical perspective.<p>Basically, bullet point #1 - ignored in the subsequent post content - is the elephant in the room here.
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sebastianconcptalmost 3 years ago
I really don&#x27;t like how many people talk about &quot;luck&quot;. They are not really talking about the concept, they are using the &quot;luck&quot; word as la language figure of something else, and that&#x27;s misleading to the reader&#x27;s intelligence (writers that do that are like making the reader&#x27;s imagination go drunk instead of leaving it more richly nurtured).<p>The categories the author is talking about are more about the creation of positive selected opportunities.<p>If you invest your efforts in maximizing the possibilities that good things stop being impossible to happen, then (due to Murphy&#x27;s Law) they just might, and if you&#x27;re there and catch them, most people will call that &quot;luck&quot;.
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mswenalmost 3 years ago
I am not sure if Jason Roberts was the first to use this phrase but here was his take on Luck Surface Area back in 2010. That was the first I personally heard of the term Luck Surface Area. I don&#x27;t know that Jason&#x27;s take is any more insightful than the linked article, but I feel like he deserved a call out as well on this topic.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-surface-area" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-sur...</a>
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paulpauperalmost 3 years ago
not much content here, a lot of its suggestions will not work<p><i>Hard work brings luck: You work on something so much that you attract luck. You tweet 5,000 times and nothing happens. But the next tweet gets a like from a big account and goes viral; you get thousands of new followers. This type of luck finds you only because you’ve hustled your way to it.</i><p>lol nope. This is the Edison myth: try something many times and eventually you succeed. this only works if there was ever potential for success in the first place. often there isn&#x27;t.
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tpoacheralmost 3 years ago
Interesting article. I feel it&#x27;s a bit superficial in two ways though.<p>Others here have commented on the opportunity cost of the actions involved in increasing your &quot;surface area&quot;. I agree.<p>The other thing that struck me as not taken into consideration, is that expanding your surface area (at least inasfar as those 5 points are concerned) potentially also attracts &quot;bad luck&quot; as much as it does &quot;good luck&quot;. E.g. expanding your network indiscriminately also makes it more likely to attract predators; Each new person that hears about your work increases the chances of an unlucky event (think activist twittermob). Curiosity without experience may lead you down bankruptable rabbit holes. etc
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omair_inamalmost 3 years ago
For a more detailed take on this topic refer to swyx&#x27;s article on creating luck: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.swyx.io&#x2F;create-luck" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.swyx.io&#x2F;create-luck</a>
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RajT88almost 3 years ago
I would agree with this thinking of luck surface area. An anecdote:<p>I was passively job searching a few years ago. Saw some colleague invite me to Indeed. Figured I&#x27;d sign up for an account, just in case. Doesn&#x27;t hurt.<p>Ended up interviewing with Microsoft. Got the job.<p>Then got some congrats message from Indeed on receiving my offer through Indeed. Weird. The recruiter in question was someone I had never had any contact with. Probably cooking their numbers by claiming credit on Indeed for hires which were done via other means (in my case, linkedin&#x2F;hiring social).<p>Well. Turns out Indeed was doing a promotion where if you get hired through Indeed, you get a free gift. Pretty decent one too, I forget the other options, but I picked the Playstation 4.<p>Getting a free PS4 for getting hired by MSFT is super dumb luck. Surface area - I signed up for Indeed, &quot;Just in case, who knows?&quot;.
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asciimovalmost 3 years ago
Articles like these always seem to come from people that already have good luck.<p>As there is a high level of survivorship bias from these people, I&#x27;d prefer an article from someone who has actually changed their luck. Perhaps an article detailing how someone got ahead despite a run of ill timed bad luck.
achenetalmost 3 years ago
somewhat click-baity, but the general advice to &quot;get out there, follow your interest and communicate&quot; is valid, I suppose. ^_^
jonnycomputeralmost 3 years ago
Should mention that this idea has been around the internets for a while. Is mentioned in article, but not linked to.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmarchive.com&#x2F;luck_and_the_entrepreneur.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pmarchive.com&#x2F;luck_and_the_entrepreneur.html</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-surface-area" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-sur...</a>
erellsworthalmost 3 years ago
Luck is, by definition, something you can&#x27;t control.
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thyroxalmost 3 years ago
The best way to increase your luck is to learn sales imo. And I&#x27;m not just talking about money.<p>What I&#x27;ve learnt is that you need to learn sales to be successful or lucky in just about any life&#x27;s endeavour be it business, dating, kids, academics, etc. Hell you&#x27;re even selling open source software if you think about it.<p>You&#x27;re always selling something to someone - like selling yourself if you&#x27;re on a date, goods when it&#x27;s your business, etc.<p>You can be as hardworking as you want but unless you learn how to sell and close you&#x27;re not getting lucky. Most successful people I&#x27;ve met or seen are just great salesman tbh and it&#x27;s a wonder that most people look at selling with such derision (but selling doesn&#x27;t have to be unethical).
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karmakazealmost 3 years ago
&gt; Imagine lucky events as random arrows flying around. They are like Eros’ arrows; you want to get hit.<p>&gt; The best way to get hit by a random arrow is to increase the surface area of the target — in this case, your luck surface area.<p>The best practical advice I&#x27;d seen in this area is to &#x27;be out there&#x27;. Because on a typical day the odds of a good thing happening to you from it outweighs the odds of bad things. Staying at home, or in some other comfort zone doesn&#x27;t increase this surface area. You can call this schmoozing or whatever, but I think it goes further into arbitrary encounters and not being particularly directed but merely recognizing opportunities whenever&#x2F;wherever they should happen to come up.
Hypergraphealmost 3 years ago
The &quot;create a brand&quot; part seems a bit complicated for &quot;normal&quot; people.
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justhwalmost 3 years ago
This is a better article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-surface-area" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.codusoperandi.com&#x2F;posts&#x2F;increasing-your-luck-sur...</a>
chmod600almost 3 years ago
&quot;Blind luck: This is what most people mean when they talk about luck. Where you were born, who your parents are...&quot;<p>But you <i>can</i> affect where your children grow up and who your children are.<p>Intergenerational perspective is one of the most underrated ideas in modern life.
personjerryalmost 3 years ago
If you&#x27;re interested in this, this article reads like a play off of Nassim Taleb&#x27;s book *The Black Swan&quot; so you may want to check that out
rayrrralmost 3 years ago
Eh. &quot;Don&#x27;t need good luck it&#x27;ll just turn bad&quot; - Mia Rodriguez, &quot;Shut Up&quot;
jonnycomputeralmost 3 years ago
&gt;Imagine lucky events as random arrows flying around.<p>&gt;to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
mancerayderalmost 3 years ago
&quot;4. Build a personal brand<p>Create value for people.&quot;<p>Thanks, but no thanks. Brand myself? It takes a type.
itsmemattchungalmost 3 years ago
I got a bit confused because the top two comments both started with:<p>&gt; This article isn’t wrong, but
unixheroalmost 3 years ago
Luck: You must be put there and expose yourself to serendipity.
sAbakumoffalmost 3 years ago
these 3 minutes I spent reading this piece of sh*t never comes back. It&#x27;s total garbage, don&#x27;t bother opening it.
burlesonaalmost 3 years ago
The article rings true but it also glosses over the downside risks of brand building and making yourself a known figure generally. This was mostly upside in the past, but these days there’s a lot of downside. You have to always be disciplined, because you never know what thing you’ve said will be weaponized against you by the mob.
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