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The Helios microkernel

249 pointsby goranmoominalmost 3 years ago

15 comments

senkoalmost 3 years ago
The post mentiones seL4 as an inspiration:<p>&gt; Again, much of the design comes from seL4, but unlike seL4, we intend to build upon this kernel and develop a userspace as well.<p>I&#x27;m wondering why they didn&#x27;t decide to build the rest of the system on top of that.<p>I&#x27;d totally respect answers like &quot;because building kernels is fun&quot; or &quot;because I wanted to do that in my programming language&quot;. I&#x27;m just wondering if there was another reason seL4 was unsuitable.
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vander_elstalmost 3 years ago
I have some concerns about the future of the OS. It seems that the author in involved in many other ambitious projects (sway, hare, sourcehut...). I am not sure how sustainable it is to keep up with all of them. Anyway congrats for the milestone and best of luck moving forward!!
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atrnalmost 3 years ago
Not to be confused with the other Helios OS - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;axelmuhr&#x2F;Helios-NG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;axelmuhr&#x2F;Helios-NG</a>
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CameronNemoalmost 3 years ago
Seems like a lot of alternative OSs these days are microkernels. Fuchsia&#x2F;Zircon, Redox, and now this. Seems pretty interesting. I wonder if the Linux kernel will take cues from these developments and start shoving auxiliary device drivers into userspace? A pleb can dream.
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eatonphilalmost 3 years ago
Drew has said [0, 1] that it&#x27;s not possible&#x2F;practical to build a browser today (enough counterexamples exist for this to be not really true) but the way his projects are going I kind of expect him to announce one in the next few years.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;08&#x2F;13&#x2F;Web-browsers-need-to-stop.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;08&#x2F;13&#x2F;Web-browsers-need-to-stop...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;18&#x2F;Reckless-limitless-scope.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drewdevault.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;03&#x2F;18&#x2F;Reckless-limitless-scope....</a>
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skywal_lalmost 3 years ago
Would be nice to document your progress through youtube the way Andreas Kling did for SerenityOS. It&#x27;s probably part of the big success and the huge followers and developers he gained along the way.<p>It&#x27;s probably an additional huge workload for the production of the video though...
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rossmohaxalmost 3 years ago
how does this guy find time to support his business, sourcehut, and doing cool side projects like Hare and Helios? Does he have life? Does he code extremely fast? Has he automated everything in his life, including lawn mowing, so that he can dedicate 25h a day to coding? What&#x27;s the secret?
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akagusualmost 3 years ago
I wish all luck for Drew and all people contributing to Helios.<p>I wish it could be a successful OS and maybe some day we can replace Linux for it, since now Linux is controlled by big corps.
donkarmaalmost 3 years ago
is this a serious project or just a demonstration of the language&#x27;s capabilities? If serious, would be nice to see some Plan 9 type stuff if on roadmap
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c01nalmost 3 years ago
C was created to write Unix, and now here we have Hare to write Helios. Good luck on this great journey Mr Drew.
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tiffanyhalmost 3 years ago
The breadth &amp; depth of things Drew creates is both inspiring and confusing.<p>Inspiring because he&#x27;s clearly chasing his passion.<p>Confusing because it comes across as a lack of focus.
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ilovecachingalmost 3 years ago
When writing your OS from scratch, what order did you develop your components in?<p>Did you start with an assumption of UEFI, long mode only?
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BaculumMeumEstalmost 3 years ago
It’s really depressing to me that there are people on this site who spend their time on this earth sneering at other people’s passion projects in thread after thread because of the language being used. People notice that and it affects their decision to share their work.
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Santosh83almost 3 years ago
Another thing not specifically mentioned in the post is this project will be a good workout for the brand new language (Hare) as well. I remember a post on it not too long back on HN that garnered a lot of scathing remarks. Good luck to the authors.<p>However I just want to add a personal comment. In my view, programs will come and go. They can be written and rewritten. But what is <i>really important</i> if we want to ensure free computing for all is not gradually eroded is to work on as many open standards for interoperability as possible to serve as alternatives for proprietary protocols. Also open, community developed languages. However the hardware situation is out of the hands of software developers, yet critically important. Open software and protocols on closed hardware is unsustainable. Lets hope someone like Musk takes the initiative in this area.
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sydthrowawayalmost 3 years ago
How does this compare to Fuchsia?
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