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Undersea Cables Off Hawaii Targeted by Malicious Actors

86 pointsby pain_perdualmost 3 years ago

11 comments

peter_l_downsalmost 3 years ago
Here&#x27;s a much better source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;newsletters&#x2F;2022-04-20&#x2F;an-underwater-hack-and-the-digital-ripple-effects" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;newsletters&#x2F;2022-04-20&#x2F;an-und...</a> in particular, it makes it clearer that this was a cyberattack, rather than a physical attack.
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robonerdalmost 3 years ago
So it wasn&#x27;t &quot;undersea cables off Hawaii&quot; that were targeted, but rather servers <i>on</i> Hawaii that service those undersea cables. I expected submarine antics, which would have a much smaller list of suspects. It sounds like this <i>might</i> not even be state-funded.
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londons_explorealmost 3 years ago
I used to be involved in repairs for undersea fiber...<p>Undersea fiber breaks all the time. When it breaks, you can send signals from the ends to find out where the break is. You then dispatch a ship to repair it.<p>However, if the cable breaks in two places at once, you cannot then detect a <i>third</i> break between the two you know about. That means someone who wants to tap your cable needs to break it in three places so that you aren&#x27;t aware where they put the tap.<p>Surprisingly, it was <i>substantially</i> more frequent than random chance that a cable broke in two places in quick succession. To me that&#x27;s good evidence that these cables were being tapped.<p>We also encrypted the data on the glass with dedicated per-link encryption units. I don&#x27;t know if the adversary was hoping to break the encryption or had some way to extract the keys, or was just tapping the cable in case the data was unencrypted. I guess I&#x27;ll never know.
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brunoTbearalmost 3 years ago
Notably the attack in this article occurred on land. Also surprising the name and details of the arrested person haven’t been shared.
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shadowgovtalmost 3 years ago
Will Manidis: &quot;These attacks are a stark reminder that our internet infrastructure is at incredible risk. A constant reminder that our continued freedom rests on an increasingly vulnerable set of infrastructure that is only waiting to be attacked. And our adversaries know it.&quot;<p>Also Will Manidis: <i>tells the story of Operation Ivy Bells, where the US tapped another country&#x27;s transmission lines</i><p>Sauce for the goose, right?
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ChrisArchitectalmost 3 years ago
Interview with Frank Pace, Hawaii office of Homeland Security, from when this was news a month and half ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31190990" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31190990</a>
yellow_leadalmost 3 years ago
Actually the cables weren&#x27;t targeted, so this is clickbait.
londons_explorealmost 3 years ago
It&#x27;s 2022 and theres still a goldmine of unencrypted data flowing on the public internet and under the ocean.<p>WHY?!?!?<p>It&#x27;s time some backbone providers just started publishing a sample of plaintext info they see flowing over their networks. A simple tap of 0.0001% of traffic directed through a filter to look for words like &quot;password&quot; and stick it up on a webpage ought to do the trick.<p>Journalists would have a field day for a while trying to write an article about every insecure company, but before long everyone would properly encrypt their traffic to avoid the embarrassment at a minimum!
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kralljaalmost 3 years ago
Do these malicious actors not know about HTTPS?
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goatcodealmost 3 years ago
&gt;While it is likely we will never know who attempted the breach, it is clear that the security of our cables are of key interest of the great power adversaries.<p>&gt;and this wouldn&#x27;t be the first time Russia has been linked to a cable attack.<p>Was it Russia? The long stream of tweets fails to mention that in a clear way.
jabroni_saladalmost 3 years ago
I was hoping this would end up being about sharks.
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