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FixPhrase – open-source, patent-free what3words alternative

90 pointsby nodoodlesalmost 3 years ago

15 comments

kybernetikosalmost 3 years ago
This is a bit like my <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wherewords.id" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wherewords.id</a> that I made as a fun holiday project. I used the S2 cells (same as the one used by pokemon go), and my own wordlist. Using this approach, I believe I got accuracy down to squares of approximately 2x2 metres with 4 words (from a wordlist of 4096 words). FixPhrase only claims accuracy of 11m, which isn&#x27;t terrible, but won&#x27;t locate a single parking space or front door particularly well.<p>The wordlist is surprisingly hard work. The first location I clicked on fixphrase had as one of its words &#x27;french&#x27;. That&#x27;s potentially pretty confusing. It&#x27;s super hard to get a good wordlist, and it&#x27;s not just negative words, words that are particularly unusual or words likely to create bad combinations, it&#x27;s also removing homonyms, words likely to be confused (capital&#x2F;capitol, carless&#x2F;careless), geographic words, or words that are combinations of other words in the word list.
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toolzalmost 3 years ago
neither this nor w3w are as useful as googles already open source <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.google.com&#x2F;pluscodes&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.google.com&#x2F;pluscodes&#x2F;</a> in my opinion.<p>With plus codes you can both have a short, memorable address and gauge relative distance with other nearby addresses. I&#x27;m not sure I can think of a reason to ever use fixphrase or w3w as an alternative to this already existing open standard.
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samwillisalmost 3 years ago
It looks like the key difference between this and what3words is that squares near each other have mostly the same words. With only the last word changing for adjacent squares, and even then they are similar. I can see the motivation for this (you can abbreviate to fewer words for a general area), but alto suspect it is partially about the W3w patent. However it also increases the risk of being slightly wrong with a location, w3w is good for things like emergency rescue as you can’t be slightly wrong.
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barrypalmost 3 years ago
Hah, the location of my house is interesting - that&#x27;ll be fun asking for a pizza or a fire truck sent to &quot;corrosive filth .....&quot;
zimpenfishalmost 3 years ago
Would be helpful if it accepted UK versions of the words - my current location includes &quot;stylized&quot; but replacing that by &quot;stylised&quot; (as you might well after hearing it on the phone) fails and just returns &quot;London, vaguely&quot;.<p>(cf <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31830437" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31830437</a> )
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CompuHackeralmost 3 years ago
<p><pre><code> 0, 0 catatonic magnetism sandworm swimsuit &quot;Null Island&quot; 90, 0 abacus magnetism sandworm swimsuit &quot;South Pole&quot; -90, 0 &quot;North Pole&quot; 85.0511, 0 detonator magnetism snowboard theft &quot;South Limit&quot; -85.0511, 0 activity magnetism smudge vicinity &quot;North Limit&quot; 0, -90 catatonic gloater sandworm swimsuit &quot;Easter Island&quot; 0, 90 catatonic pogo sandworm swimsuit &quot;Indian Ocean&quot; 0, 180 catatonic sandblast sandworm swimsuit &quot;East Limit&quot; 0, -180 catatonic driver sandworm swimsuit &quot;West Limit&quot; </code></pre> Latitude is limited to ±85.0511 in OSM and Google Maps. Could someone request the words for &quot;90, 0&quot; and &quot;-90, 0&quot; manually? Second line above is glitchy but seems to be off-map South, at the pole, as expected.
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goplayoutsidealmost 3 years ago
Related:<p>Cybergibbons: Why What3Words is not suitable for safety critical applications (2021)[1]<p>HN discussion here[2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cybergibbons.com&#x2F;security-2&#x2F;why-what3words-is-not-suitable-for-safety-critical-applications&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cybergibbons.com&#x2F;security-2&#x2F;why-what3words-is-not-su...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27058271" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27058271</a>
ortusduxalmost 3 years ago
I picked a random location and got &quot;daringly kleenex sloppily very&quot;. Are there any issues with the fact that &quot;kleenex&quot; is a registered trademark?
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Brajeshwaralmost 3 years ago
So, What3Words is marketing and advertising heavily in India and I have to kinda chuckle at the complexities of the words that are not as common as we speak in everyday English. Try saying &quot;interacts.scrapped.evoked&quot; to an Uber driver and he would cancel you instantly.
sixhobbitsalmost 3 years ago
What stops W3W legal team shutting down this ohe like they did to the other open source implementation?
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ReflectedImagealmost 3 years ago
The work behind what3words isn&#x27;t the algorithm. It&#x27;s the word list used. They have linguistics who check the sounds of words, are they too similar to another word are they rude, etc, etc..
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spantsalmost 3 years ago
For fun, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;what3rudewords" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;what3rudewords</a>
craftuseralmost 3 years ago
I think it&#x27;s a notably funny coincidence that &quot;contact finance&quot; is the prefix for some pretty expensive real estate.
bethlingalmost 3 years ago
At least for me, when I put in my address, it finds a similarly named, but incorrect address.<p>Makes it a little hard to use :-&#x2F;
baal80spamalmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m trying to think of a use case for such a service. Any ideas?
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