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Launch HN: Astro (YC W21) – Build your own dev teams in Latin America

164 pointsby FrankLiceaalmost 3 years ago
Howdy HN! We’re Jacqueline and Frank from Astro (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tryastro.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tryastro.com&#x2F;</a>). We’re a platform that gives you access to engineering talent in Latin America and lets you build teams there. We take care of the sourcing, payroll, HR, benefits, local procurement, and equipment, all from an easy-to-use dashboard. (Video here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RmiVOVfbHFI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RmiVOVfbHFI</a>)<p>Before starting Astro, we worked as leaders at the same company, Jacqueline in sales and Frank in engineering. As we built our teams, we found it was very hard to compete against top tech companies for talent. Therefore, we broadened our search beyond Austin, Texas.<p>We ended up working with various partners in Latin America because of the strong talent pool, great English, and US friendly time zones. However, finding and retaining engineering teams in Latin America was a challenge. We loved our teammates, but were never thrilled about the outsourcing firms they worked for. Because they weren’t our employees, we couldn’t control what they were being paid, couldn’t give them benefits and perks, and the only visibility we had was the $150&#x2F;hr bill we got from the outsourcing company. How much of that actually went to the team?<p>Because traditional outsourcing firms tend to attract non-tech clients and their culture revolves around billable hours, our team members were also unsatisfied with the outsourcing company that they worked for. Freelancing could be an alternative, but is also difficult for teams in Latin America due to its inherent risk and likelihood of being treated as a second-class contractor on a foreign team rather than a first-class stakeholder.<p>We were stuck with three uncomfortable options: outsource the entire product, manage a large team of independent freelancers, or rely on an outsourcing company to create our engineering culture.<p>What we really wanted were our own teams, including our own offices, equipment, salaries, benefits, etc. But setting up a foreign entity and knowing how to hire in foreign markets was a distraction and difficult—not to mention payroll, benefits, procurement, legal compliance, etc.<p>We ultimately went to work at different companies, but continued to experience the same pain points at our new companies. Finally, in 2018, after commiserating many times over beers, we decided to build the company we kept looking for, a company to automatically handle all of these international complexities.<p>We originally called ourselves Austin Software and we started by building teams by hand for startups in Austin, Texas. Then, we started to realize we had gotten good at solving lots of problems on behalf of teams in the US: sourcing Macbooks, finding competitive local benefits and perks, legal compliance, even organizing happy hours, travel and SWAG. Our idea was to productize what we’d learned and make it available to other companies. We got tired of explaining that we build teams, not bill project hours! So we built Astro (“Austin Software Tool for Recommendations and Opportunities” :))<p>You can think of Astro as something like a love child between Toptal + Gusto + WeWork + Amazon (the latter because of the logistics we do — more on that below), tailored specifically for software engineering teams in LATAM. Unlike Toptal or Turing, we fulfill local benefits, equipment, even team-building events. Our pricing is also transparent, in contrast to companies that charge by the hour, upfront fees, or handcuff you to long-term contracts. Customers review and pay for 1) the developer’s desired salary, 2) benefits and taxes, and 3) our 15% management fee on a week-to-week basis.<p>Here’s one example of the kind of thing we take care of. A 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro is not just a perk in Latin America, they actually save countless hours when dealing with heavy dev environments. But they’re difficult to source in Latin America, especially outside of the handful of major cities. And even if they are sourced, they’re extremely expensive, especially if they know you’re an American company, and getting them to teammates across South America runs the risk of theft or damage. We solve this by having local entities, local logistics, local distribution and secure local offices.<p>We’re proud of the fact that developers in Latin America have a much better experience working with us. That’s because our customers (i.e. the companies using Astro) are looking to scale their engineering departments with long-term stakeholders, not temporary “horsepower”, and also because real tech culture (the sort of thing devs in Silicon Valley take for granted) is a huge draw for developers, but nearly impossible to find via outsourcing shops, and very hit-and-miss on Toptal&#x2F;Turing.<p>We hope you’ll try us out! Visit <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.TryAstro.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.TryAstro.com</a>, and configure your desired team (See video tutorial and screenshots below if you&#x27;re just curious). Astro will source, pre-vet, schedule interviews, send offer letters, manage employment contracts, and coordinate equipment, office space, and SWAG. Once that’s set up, you can use Astro to manage your team on an ongoing basis: salaries, bonuses, additional benefits, perks, equipment, etc.<p>Check out some screenshots here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;drive&#x2F;folders&#x2F;17qYsZLKrhPdE1Ud1LA5A8RYNZiJkXo41" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;drive&#x2F;folders&#x2F;17qYsZLKrhPdE1Ud1LA5A...</a> and a video tutorial here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RmiVOVfbHFI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RmiVOVfbHFI</a><p>We’d love to hear your feedback and we’re excited to answer any questions!

36 comments

Marcelovkalmost 3 years ago
I think that this is a fantastic idea.<p>Before the pandemic, all the good software development jobs were attached to big cities, and hardly any company accepted remote work. What would happen in many instances, is that companies from outside latam would pay a lot for relocating them (and their families) to other countries, commonly to US, Canada, Spain, Germany and UK - however a portion of those devs come back because there is a lot of value living in the countryside&#x2F;smaller cities of latam when you have kids, it ends up with a better quality of life overall.<p>In the end those professionals (usually already seniors) open local companies to work as a contractor for their previous employer or any other company that accepts remote work and can pay invoices overseas, this way they end up keeping a high salary (especially when you consider the exchange rates) and the perks of working from home.<p>How would you hire&#x2F;contact those professionals? Usually I get a lot of local agencies trying to contact me to work for outside, but offering local salaries, which makes absolutely no sense. In other words, how do you differentiate from Accenture&#x2F;Thoughtworks or any other consultancy to hire the engineers?
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smallerfishalmost 3 years ago
Not to be a downer, but that&#x27;s pretty expensive. I spent last week in [latam capital city] and met with 3 local outsourcing firms, down from 6 that I&#x27;d pre-screened by Zoom. I then reduced the list to 2 based on the co-founders of each being technical, and their solid recruiting practices. Both have offices which devs are free to come into (or work remotely), both pay salaries and offer benefits, both provide embedded developers with project managers in the background, both provide in house training and skills development. One charges $30&#x2F;hr-$45&#x2F;hr, one $40-$55, with the rate difference being based on the location of the devs (the cheaper range is 2 hours north of the metro area).<p>Both have accounts in the US which you can pay directly if you don&#x27;t want to deal with wire transfers (though those also are easy). Both handle taxes.
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andrew_almost 3 years ago
&gt; Our pricing is also transparent<p>I&#x27;m sure there are reasons, but your pricing isn&#x27;t <i>truly</i> transparent until I can find it from the homepage, without signing up for an account. Should I have to sign up with my burner&#x2F;spam email address just to access that?<p>Edit: I&#x27;m not able to find the pricing even after creating an account. This isn&#x27;t a great user experience for someone trying to figure out how much the platform might cost (and I&#x27;m actually in the market for this kind of thing)
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edferdaalmost 3 years ago
Hey this looks pretty awesome. Currently I work in LATAM for international corporations and it is also hard for us, developers, to find a good fit. Dealing with Latin American agencies is always a pain, it seems Astro might attract companies that care more about their people and building quality, long term relationships. What are you doing to treat candidates like human beings? How do developers join your roster?
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bberenbergalmost 3 years ago
Seems cool. How much coaching do you have for US companies to better understand the team&#x27;s local culture issues?<p>For example, I worked with teams in Brazil in the past and while they were smart, kind, etc they were slow in every sense of the word. They didn&#x27;t have the US culture of respond quickly, unblock people, get shit done, etc. This isn&#x27;t necessarily a bad thing, in fact working slower may be a benefit, but the US company needs to understand this as they establish the relationship.<p>Your pricing makes sense, but I would like to understand some kind of ballpark numbers based on role title. Can you share that?
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neolanderalmost 3 years ago
This looks cool! I&#x27;ve been bullish on Latin America since remote became more popular. It&#x27;s natural that people in the US would want to hire someone in more similar timezone and culture than people on the other side of the world.<p>There are great people everywhere, but in my view, it&#x27;s been much harder to source good people from Latam than it is from Eastern Europe or South Asia.
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wefarrellalmost 3 years ago
I am 100% your target market as I&#x27;ve built several teams in Latin America mostly by finding developers directly and paying them as C2C. Sometimes when I need talent immediately I&#x27;ll use Toptal.<p>Is it possible to use your logistics without your sourcing? Frankly I think I&#x27;m better at finding the best combination of skillset and personalities for the project I want to use than you or any other staffing service. However a lot of the developers I find are hesitant to jump through the hoops to start their own company and receive international payments.
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swatcoderalmost 3 years ago
If Astro is providing ongoing “local fulfillment” to make “teammates” feel like first class workers on an international stage, what happens to my team in XYZ when Astro makes a radical business decision (closing offices in that city, pivoting to court a next funding round, etc) as VC-funded startups often need to do?<p>Aren’t I making my business extraordinarily vulnerable to an unpredictable early-stage startup? How is that better than hiring&#x2F;contracting through a mature overseas staffing agency in Mumbai, Kviv, or Buenos Aires? I mean, there are thousands of the latter, many with great history and references, and I don’t see what you’re adding besides risk and branding.
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jokethrowawayalmost 3 years ago
There is nothing stopping companies from hiring freelancers from Latin America, without adding another middleman (like your service) which will, of course, cost something.<p>Having tried this setup and having dealt with middlemen (eg. Pilot) and not, I can&#x27;t say I noticed much difference with dealing with self employed.<p>Especially if the team members are senior, they&#x27;re likely to know the ropes of setting up business in their country.<p>That said, hiring from Latin American has its challenges - the language barrier is not easy to overcome and the political instability can take a toll on your friends and coworkers (especially in these trying times).
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ivanmontillamalmost 3 years ago
Venezuela and Argentina have vibrant software development community, but have challenges in terms of payment methods, specifically about local currencies.<p>How&#x27;d you deal with that?<p>The challenge with Venezuela and Argentina is that you cannot pay developers in local currency, otherwise they&#x27;d be losing a truckload of revenue (e.g. Argentina is heavily taxed for remote workers and the official exchange rate for foreign money received is too low compared to the parallel&#x2F;blackmarket exchange rate).<p>I&#x27;m happy to discuss specific problems (my Twitter handle is open to DMs).
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rodogarciaalmost 3 years ago
First of all: a disclaimer: I work for Austin Software. Before Austin Software I worked at one of the biggest software factories for eight years, and before that as a freelancer. I know that experience doesn&#x27;t cover the full spectrum of options we have today in terms of &quot;middlemen&quot;, but I have experienced some of the trade offs that you can find in the different options. Not every company or any developer has the same needs and neither Austin Software or any other option is the best one for everyone. Having said so, I think may not be the cheapest &quot;middlemen&quot; out there, but they are investing in giving us good perks and finding good matches with clients. Providing perks gets easier with scale, and I&#x27;ve seen them reach some milestones (for instance providing private health insurance) far quicker than other companies. I don&#x27;t feel my career as managed with a top down approach but they really pay attention to our needs and interests in terms of client assignments. We have periodical meetings with engineer managers to discuss all that. Also, the only way they have to increase what they charge for my services is increasing my salary. That doesn&#x27;t use to happen in a software factory and that aligns our interests naturally. Freelancing on the other hand doesn&#x27;t give you easy access to some kind of companies and so many interesting projects. To get the most of one developer they need to be doing something they see as an important step of their career and I think Austin Software is trying to build a good service to find good matches to make it happen.
mattfrommarsalmost 3 years ago
Fantastic work. Basically, you want to be the TCS, Accenture of South America. Awesome.<p>What I&#x27;d love to know is how did you get 50+ US start up to use your services? How did you compete&#x2F;or reach out to the folks who are directly involved in vetting outsourcing firms to use your services and not the industrial standard TCS&#x2F;Accenture&#x2F;Wipro - who dominate the space.<p>I do want to start an outsourcing agency one day but getting the client to choose my firm over the rest is what gets me.
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zebulonevansalmost 3 years ago
I have experience with teams in different time zones. Years ago, I used oDesk which became Upwork which was just a payment and sourcing platform. The heavy lifting was on me.<p>The extras provided here in Astro with the office, swag, perks, and vetting is very intriguing and certainly puts this a couple up in my book.
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jeanlucasalmost 3 years ago
Sr dev from Brazil, was a hiring and devrel for a (good) software house that hired a lot in Latin America.<p>How does this differ from companies like remote.com? Does it work in Brazil?<p>Will you focus on &quot;teaching&quot; companies that it is OK to hire in Latin America? I feel that besides payment the biggest struggles are:<p>* Trust - the distrust was clear about several things from people &quot;disappearing&quot; to legal fears of hiring in Latin America<p>* Language - also a trust issue,<p>* Technical proficiency, companies treat developers as if they are less efficient or less informed (even if you show cases).<p>How are you going to work on these issues to convince companies to start hiring and using your platform?<p>I ask this because the hardest part was not finding devs, but all points above. With several clients even vetting developers from Latin America just because they prefer if they were in Canada and&#x2F;or Mexico.<p>It is a real barrier I dealt with several times.
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mwcampbellalmost 3 years ago
&gt; We ended up working with various partners in Latin America because of the strong talent pool, great English, and US friendly time zones.<p>I&#x27;m curious about whether you tried to find developers in the US but not in Austin or one of the big tech hubs. Or have you found that most of the good US-based developers head for the tech hubs? (Even if that were true before, surely it&#x27;s different post-pandemic.)<p>I&#x27;m not opposed to hiring good people wherever they are. But some of the challenges discussed above go away when hiring domestically. And, based on the comment elsewhere on this thread about working with companies that recognize the value of good people and are willing to pay above market rate, I gather that the point of hiring in Latam wasn&#x27;t to be cheap.
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darau1almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve been in contact with 3 different firms like Astro in the past 3 months, and now you guys pop up. Did something happen somewhere in the American job market? Or have I just been discovered to be living under a rock?
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karaterobotalmost 3 years ago
Do Astro developers sign any kind of exclusivity or non-compete contract that would make it harder for them to leave to work for another company?<p>A former company I worked for hired some excellent Central American developers through a company, and I later learned those guys had all signed contracts that made them give more than half their salary to the outsourcing company for two years, and if they wanted to leave before the end of two years, they had to pay a lump sum that was about a year&#x27;s salary.
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samstavealmost 3 years ago
Looking at your screenshots, suggest you provide definitions...<p>You have a screen: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;dRVwqZ2.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;dRVwqZ2.png</a><p>What if a profile doesn&#x27;t match that?<p>--<p>When looking for a &quot;scrum master&quot; &lt;--- Define Scum Master?<p>How am I to then evaluate who ends up in said bucket... but If I select a bucket, how can I be known to the guy who heavily sides on scrum master (in your bucket) but they are really a talented [OTHER] bucket that doesnt show up with my check-box clicks?
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martinpgalmost 3 years ago
Seems like a great idea! How do you keep the engineers feeling engaged to the team and the company after they are hired? Especially now with remote work as the main option.
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setgreealmost 3 years ago
This seems like a great idea and I’m glad to see you working on it!<p>Just curious, of all the ways you might get this off the ground, what tipped the scales in favor of VC funding? Personally, it’s hard for me to imagine this becoming a Reddit-sized operation (perhaps I lack imagination) and really easy to imagine your funders pushing you to pivot when you’re not growing 10X YoY or whatever.<p>Did you think about incorporating as a non-profit?
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SOLAR_FIELDSalmost 3 years ago
It’s not super clear to me, or maybe I don’t have deep enough knowledge here and that’s why it’s not obvious. Are the people that Company A hires through this service direct employees of Company A, or are they C2C paid hourly from Company A to Astro who then has their own C2C with the developer?
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santiagoepalmost 3 years ago
In my previous company they used the strategy of hiring employees directly and through Astro. The truth is that Astro&#x27;s experience is very noticeable when it comes to hiring quality talent. I think it ends up being more economical to have Astro, because of all the headaches they solve.
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pftgalmost 3 years ago
This is just our staff model, which Ukraine companies have provided for the last 25 years. We have a lot of them. I have not found any difference or deal breaker in your story.<p>TopTal changed that way to have better-motivated people, who want to work anywhere, so your idea is to step back.
lincolnParkKidalmost 3 years ago
What about it is at all different from toptal, Turing and the like?
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jamal-kumaralmost 3 years ago
Excelente! En cuáles países eran la gran parte de sus trabajadores?
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whymaurialmost 3 years ago
Are early startup employees in Latin America finally getting stock or are they going to continue being exploited as they build unicorn after unicorn?
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0xfacfacalmost 3 years ago
This is the same as Austin Software, right?
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purplepatrickalmost 3 years ago
If you paid $150 for LatAm outsourcing before, then this is definitely a better setup. You overpaid by a lot ;)
fatskieralmost 3 years ago
The future of distributed teams. I think this model works well when executed well by partners like Astro.
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rocker3011almost 3 years ago
Now this is what I call an idea, its like building your dream team in a game but in real life!
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urthoralmost 3 years ago
Excellent, excellent product idea.
2015BatchCEOalmost 3 years ago
Why Latam? Which countries do you have operations on?
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mleonhardalmost 3 years ago
Congratulations on launching. I&#x27;m considering hiring a DevOps engineer to share oncall for my solo startup. I need to know salary bands. Do you plan on providing this info?<p>LatAm is a big place and I don&#x27;t read Spanish or Portuguese so I expect finding the info will be challenging. Levels.fyi has only Brazil, lists salaries in local currency, and has no info for DevOps engineers. Glassdoor lists large bands. For example, the bands for DevOps Engineer are USD 18k-75k in Rio de Janeiro and USD 14k-25k in Belo Horizonte. Glassdoor&#x27;s salary bands don&#x27;t account for English skills.
rafaeleroalmost 3 years ago
Please come to Brazil!
davemtyalmost 3 years ago
seems great!!
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sgtalmost 3 years ago
I tried creating a team, then I got an error saying &quot;There were an error&quot;.
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