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Ask HN: Seeking Cryptography Certification

29 pointsby mfbx9da4almost 3 years ago
I would like to do some training in cryptography and information security. The goal is that I would have the credentials, confidence and toolkit to write my own cryptographic protocols.<p>Are there any industry recognised courses or exams that I can sit?<p>Beyond doing a masters, as I don’t really have the option to ditch my full time work, as much as I would like to.

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Darkstryderalmost 3 years ago
For the specific topic of cryptography: every professional cryptographer I know not only started with a master in mathematics, but completed it with a PhD in cryptography afterwards. Trying to do it professionally with neither diplomas feels like a non-starter to me.<p>Of course, that doesn&#x27;t mean you can&#x27;t study the field on your own for the sake of knowledge. And it will certainly make you a better infosec professionnal, whatever subfield you want to specialize in.<p>Also, keep in mind there are maybe 1000 people working in information security for 1 person working as a professional cryptographer. Cryptography is a bit tricky, but information security is a broad field with many interesting things to do.
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als0almost 3 years ago
With respect, you really shouldn&#x27;t be designing your own cryptographic protocols if they are going into a product. Even the best of the best make serious mistakes. A course is not going to give you the confidence that you need. There are so many peer reviewed protocols out there that there&#x27;s almost no need to make one yourself unless you&#x27;re in a very specialised or niche scenario. That said, if you just want to learn about them, there are plenty of good, readable books like Real World Cryptography and Applied Cryptography (Schneier).
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cpachalmost 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cryptopals.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cryptopals.com&#x2F;</a>
plucalmost 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toc.cryptobook.us&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toc.cryptobook.us&#x2F;</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;swarm.cs.pub.ro&#x2F;~mbarbulescu&#x2F;cripto&#x2F;Understanding%20Cryptography%20by%20Christof%20Paar%20.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;swarm.cs.pub.ro&#x2F;~mbarbulescu&#x2F;cripto&#x2F;Understanding%20C...</a><p>and &quot;Applied cryptography&quot; by Bruce Schneier.<p>the credential is &quot;I understand cryptography&quot; which you can print on a piece of paper if you like
rg111almost 3 years ago
&gt; confidence and toolkit to write my own cryptographic protocols<p>One of the first things I ever learned in Dan Boneh&#x27;s Crypto MOOC is to not write your own crypto protocols for your product.<p>Because old solutions exist for a long time, and have been open for a long time, experts and scholars have had much more time to find faults in them. They are also tested in the industry.<p>No matter how smart you are, you shouldn’t <i>use</i> your own cryptographic solution.<p>Use open, long-existed, tried and true solutions.
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noodlesUKalmost 3 years ago
Depending on which country you’re in, it’s possible to do a masters degree part time. I’ve known a few people who have done this. Even with a masters degree you’re probably not going to want to run around solo doing crypto protocol design though. These things are usually better done as part of a team or with years of experience.
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MacsHeadroomalmost 3 years ago
A masters isn&#x27;t even enough. The industry recognizes PhDs. &quot;Your own cryptographic protocol&quot; would be a doctoral dissertation or postdoctoral work.<p>You may as well ask about a certification to give you &quot;the confidence to make your own neurosurgery protocols.&quot;<p>At least the damage is much more limited with faulty brain surgery.
sshinealmost 3 years ago
Join a study group around the book Real World Cryptography?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.zeroknowledge.fm&#x2F;t&#x2F;new-study-group-real-world-cryptography-by-david-wong&#x2F;409" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.zeroknowledge.fm&#x2F;t&#x2F;new-study-group-real-wo...</a>
Omavelalmost 3 years ago
Writing your own cryptoprotocol has nothing in common with infosec certification...
dborehamalmost 3 years ago
This is a bit like asking if you can become a neurosurgeon by taking online classes. But if you&#x27;re aiming to do it for fun, just jump in and study the field (deeply) on your own.