Nicely communicated. Everything that JetBrains does around their pricing and subscription model always feels really fair and classy to me. (perpetual fallback licensing, continuity discounts).<p>In this case, being completely upfront in the post title that this is a price increase, no "Updated pricing" or "Revised pricing" etc. Reasonable notice period with an option to renew for multiple years at the current pricing before the change comes into effect.
I get so much value out of JetBrains products that if a price increase is what is needed or them to stay on business I can accept that. (The products are paid by my employer so this only affects indirectly)<p>It might be an unpopular opinion but I appreciate the transparency of the post. There are other companies which products I use that I’m afraid are not financially sustainable and thus I’m afraid for an email saying that the products has been discontinued.<p>There’s always the possibility of open source, home brewed or whatever, but when it comes to getting stuff done sometimes paying is cheaper than the time/effort of an alternative.<p>Best of luck jetbrains!
Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimately seem to be identical except for language support. Why isn’t language support implemented as plugins if all the IDEs share a common framework? Last I checked, it seemed like they do have an “ultimate” version with multiple language support… except that one doesn’t support C/C++.<p>I was interested in buying CLion, but also needed to be able to work with Python in the same project. I couldn’t tell if that means I have to also buy the PyCharm IDE and deal with two different IDEs running at once.<p>It also doesn’t help that they have a subscription licensing plan. Even though they do have perpetual fallback, it doesn’t seem like a giant bloated IDE like this will hold up very long without updates.<p>So in the end, I just use Sublime Text. It’s far from perfect, but I can make it do nearly everything I need it to without having to strain my brain at the checkout screen.
What the hell is up with prices?<p>Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive.<p>My cereal became 20% more expensive.<p>Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive.<p>This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me.<p>And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.
Before I clicked the link I assumed this was a sensationalised headline. It's interesting how direct the communication is here.<p>Normally companies will try to justify their price increases in a lengthy blog post focusing on the "awesome new features" they've been working on, but not here. Just a few paragraphs summarised by, "we are at the point where we need to increase our subscription prices". Fair enough.<p>As a user obviously price increases are never welcome, but within reason I think we have to be understanding. JetBrains offers a huge amount of value to many companies and individuals. It might not be worth the price to everyone, but their pricing doesn't seem unreasonable to me and quality software is never going to be cheap.
Immediately paid for 3 more years without a second thought though the pricing is completely reasonable and I wouldn't have had an issue paying the new price.<p>Also I give JetBrains massive respect for including the old/new pricing on their pricing page versus what so many companies do which is "our prices have changed" without making it clear and leaving people to using the Wayback Machine to figure it out. Also allowing people to renew up to 3 years at the old price is a move that inspries a lot of loyalty (as shown by my immediate purchase/extension).<p>I understand if you don't program enough to make it worth paying for a tool but if you develop professionally then the JetBrains products are a steal. I really only use IDEA (PHP, TS, Java) and DataGrip (databases) but I pay for the full product pack in case I ever need another tool. I recently used AppCode and was very pleasantly surprised by it as I quite dislike Xcode for actual coding.
The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately.<p>Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.
This comes as no surprise and was in fact expected by Jetbrains. Each time they increase prices, VSCode becomes more attractive to developers. On top of that, Microsoft is doing a very clever pricing scam as I said before [0]; by making their base tools free and charging for exquisite features in VSCode like Copilot.<p>On other editors, either you use a barebones editor and pay for Copilot or you pay for both copilot and the editor subscriptions. Microsoft wins both ways and as evidently shown here, JetBrains conceded to make a subscription price rise.<p>Microsoft knows you can't beat free.<p>[0] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31826190" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31826190</a>
In general I think a price increase is reasonable <i>but</i> Jetbrains also had to fire most of its staff because of the war and development has slowed to a crawl.<p>I still pay because I want to support them and their stance but paying more for less leaves a bad aftertaste.
Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU and memory for complex databases regardless of your machine spec.<p>These days I am mostly using VsCode for development and TablePlus/Postico for database development.
With 10 USD, I can buy 1 weeks worth of food in my country. I wish SASS, software providers like Jetbrains adjusts their price based on country per capita.
I think this entirely fair and from all the tools that I pay for , Jetbrains is the one that delivers the most value. Not to mention that their licensing model is very well made and you are not even forced to upgrade if you don't want to.<p>I do, however wish they would focus more on performance and code intellisense than constantly trying to add bells and whistles to their IDE. Don't give me more Github integrations, give me better code analysis, improve inspection with regards to common bugs and security vulnerabilities. Give me better code quality tools and suggest potential ways that I could write a certain code block to improve performance.. these are the features that are most useful for me and since IDEs can index and deeplink everything, they should be able to leverage that to better understand code context for analytics and reporting.
Well in advance. Thanks.<p>By the way I think it would be nice to also have a hobbyist license option for those who barely use it and don't earn any money this way. The actual price seems almost free in terms of how much a full-time developer would earn using it yet slightly expensive for something [awesome] I only launch on some occasions a year.
Jetbrains as a company is wonderful, they treat their customers well and would be a joy to be their subscriber. The only issue is, I tried few times to use their products, they are good, but I prefer vim or visual studio code that are free and give me more. Thoughtworks use them as they empower their consultants with standard toolset. I paired with those guys and it is interesting what they get from the tools, but in the end, I am more comfortable with VS and Vim and command line. Increase font size for example is not simple :).<p>The whole idea that you can pay a company roughly $250/yr and they take care of your development tooling needs is wonderful. I wish things change and I would be happy to pay 3yrs in advance.<p>To clarify, I use javascript/typescript, ruby, elixir, sometimes elm, go etc. So no Java.
Big problem for me is that they are using proceeds from well-selling products like ReSharper to fund their strategic but under-performing products like Rider, all while neglecting the former.<p>Over last few years there were no big features added in ReSharper whatsoever and it became slower.
I don’t have much to add but what I do have is a question. What happens when people are priced out of economic activity. Most recent memory of this much economic turbulence is ‘08 but the conditions between then and now are incomparable.
Yeah, I saw this coming when they sent around a survey a couple of months back asking what people thought of their current pricing and what price increases they would stomach before ditching it.<p>An extra £16 per year for IntelliJ seems OK as rises go.
I've been a paying customer since 2006. It's worth every penny and more and while I don't love paying more, I'm content to pay the cost for great dev tools.
I almost always have at least one subscription with Jetbrains. This all sounds reasonable, especially with competition from VSCode ecosystem as well as LSP support improving.
Too much. I get the ultimate pack but won't be renewing. It's isn't THAT good and I'm very effective with vi.<p>Maybe I will still get one but not the whole pack. It was a good deal so I just went for it all but now no way.
Pycharm's debugger is great but I cancelled my sub after trying out emacs & neovim for a while. I realized I didn't miss the rest of the IDE at all.
@jetbrains: Please add support for your JetBrains 'space' as a task server in your IDEs. Yes, there's already YouTrack tickets for this, from months ago.
I do not want my product checked constantly -- I want to pay for a year and then leave me alone ! The trend is towards constant monitoring and associated disconnect immediately with a monthly payment. I object to that model.<p>I pay for a large jetBrains product right now. Not a problem to raise the price a bit. Excellent company and products in my experience.