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Google Reader's founder on Google Reader

47 pointsby teaspoonover 13 years ago

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bad_userover 13 years ago
From the article, I liked this view:<p><pre><code> The value of a social network seems to map proportionally to the perceived value of its main object. (Examples: sharing best-of-web links on Metafilter or sharing hi-res photos on Flickr or sharing video art on Vimeo or sharing statuses on Twitter/Facebook or sharing questions on Quora.) If you want a community with stronger ties, provide more definition to your social object. </code></pre> And I think this is exactly the problem Google+ faces. Nobody knows exactly what it is, unless viewed in the light of Facebook. Basically Google is starting to behave like Microsoft, slapping the Windows and .NET keywords on every product.<p>What I don't like about the new Reader interface is that compared to the old interface it makes it hard for me to actually read. It uses tons of whitespace, not enough contrast and for example the fact that the article is not separated from the left menu with a visible line is freaking annoying. My eyes move from left to right and then <i>carriage return</i> when reading and the lack of a visible line makes it hard for my eyes to stop before reaching the menu, on every single line. And in comparison with the new GMail design, Reader does not have a "Compact Display Density" option, which makes it seem like a half-baked attempt to me.<p>However, it is still my RSS reader because the alternatives suck. Just as Flickr is still my photo archival and sharing service because the alternatives suck.<p>And this brings me to another point: I'm sad that Flickr is stagnating, but on the other hand I'm glad that it is because a company can fuck up its products really badly. And I also wish Google wouldn't have touched Reader, or GMail for that mater. I like Google+, but I don't get why they have to have a unified design. GMail is GMail, Reader is Reader, Google+ is Google+, Picasa is Picasa. And sure, make sharing work between them, but pretending that everything is one big unified product will bring everything down to a common denominator, taking away value. And OMG, how Google can suck at design.<p>Also, do note that the next product to receive upgrades will be Picasa. And I'm pretty sure they'll fuck with this one too. That's because in the context of sharing on Google+, archiving GBs of your personal photos is no longer an important use-case.
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joebadmoover 13 years ago
Why would Google bother redesigning a product they're planning on deprecating? It seems fairly obvious to me that this simple math is currently in play at Google: Social is important, G+ is a pan-Google social product, and social products live or die by network effect, therefore all effort shall be directed toward driving up the userbase of G+. Hence the black bar. Hence shutting down Buzz. Hence the + operator in search. And hence the obvious integration of Reader.
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mikemokaover 13 years ago
"saying “no” to projects doesn’t make you Steve Jobs if you say no to inspiring things. It’s the discernment that’s meaningful, not the refusal. Anyone can point their thumb to the ground."<p>I am sorry I just had to quote this.
w1ntermuteover 13 years ago
There have been 3 or 4 links about this, each with its own set of comments.<p>It would be nice if various submitted links on the same topic could be grouped together, with a shared comment space. Otherwise, each time a new link of relevance to a preexisting topic comes up, there's a separate page for it, with a separate set of comments.
unfocusedover 13 years ago
They removed a tiny feature of search in Google Reader that I absolutely loved. It has nothing to do with Google+, so I don't now why it's gone. Here it is:<p>Keyboard search ability: Before, I could just type "Camera" in the search text box, and then I hit tab and I can type and auto complete "Kijiji" (my RSS feed). You now have to hit tab, then click the drop down list with your mouse and scroll down through all your feeds.<p>If you tried to type 'K', as in the first letter of Kijiji, you actually were using the keyboard shortcuts of 'j' and 'k' which moves you up and down of the current items in the loaded feed.<p>Ugh. Details, details, details! If Google seems to not care about such detail, who knows what else they are overlooking.
sudonimover 13 years ago
This is a great quote:<p>"The value of a social network seems to map proportionally to the perceived value of its main object. (Examples: sharing best-of-web links on Metafilter or sharing hi-res photos on Flickr or sharing video art on Vimeo or sharing statuses on Twitter/Facebook or sharing questions on Quora.) If you want a community with stronger ties, provide more definition to your social object."<p>Something we've been struggling with is doing something too narrow vs. lacking definition of a social object. Good insight.
voidfilesover 13 years ago
I am excited to see all the new feed readers. I think newsblur, or hivemined are in the best positon right now to absorb the google reader audience.
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