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If your site does not use HTTPS, Rostelecom will insert pro-war propaganda in it

36 pointsby anonymfusalmost 3 years ago

7 comments

jordemortalmost 3 years ago
This sort of thing is why I look askance at the "you don't need certificates" crowd. In the US, at least both Comcast and AT&T have a long and well-documented history of injecting advertisements into websites when the lack of a certificate lets them get away with it. Maybe you don't care about eavesdroppers, but you should care about a malicious network tampering with your content in-flight.
vfclistsalmost 3 years ago
Mobile providers have been doing this crap for ages.<p>That is why in the past I run my mobile connection through a VPN as much was possible.<p>FWIW this has nothing to do with pro-war propaganda, just the sketchy behaviour telecoms providers have been doing and still do.
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MarkusWandelalmost 3 years ago
How easy is it, in practice, for a nation state level authority to add a root certificate to people&#x27;s devices?<p>Adding letsencrypt to my personal server made me realize that if I&#x27;m MITM&#x27;d by a proxy, the padlock still shows up; merely clicking on it and going down a couple of menu levels (in Chrome &quot;Connection is secure -&gt; Certificate is valid&quot; will reveal that the MITM proxy&#x27;s root certificate is in use.<p>If an employer can do this to its laptops, and presumably a cell phone maker to the cell phones it sells, just much protection does https really give you against a nation state level propaganda machine?
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memenalmost 3 years ago
In cryptography there is the clear difference between encrypting and signing (Confidentiality and Integrity). Is this distinction possible on a webserver&#x2F;browser? I.e. No encryption, no signing -&gt; HTTP Encryption and signing -&gt; HTTPS No encryption, signing -&gt; ? What about public information (not confidential) that needs verification (yes integrity)?
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mikecolesalmost 3 years ago
Even with HTTPS, are any pinning techniques still viable to warn users the traffic is being, possibly legitimately, MITM-ed?<p>HPKP was an option, but the footgun reason was given for dropping support. Has anything taken its place? Is there anyway to determine a MITM server-side without relying on x-forwarded-for or via headers?
spaceheateralmost 3 years ago
Author himself links to articles how said ISP was injecting news ads, since 2020. Current news is about Ukraine, thus must be propaganda.
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PaulHoulealmost 3 years ago
Good way to make people switch.
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