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Russian gas flows to Europe

118 pointsby marbualmost 3 years ago

13 comments

marbualmost 3 years ago
Charts of Russian gas flows to Europe, sourced from ENTSO-G[1], gas storage levels from GIE[2]. Source code <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;berthubert&#x2F;gazproject" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;berthubert&#x2F;gazproject</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;entsog.eu&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;entsog.eu&#x2F;</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agsi.gie.eu&#x2F;#&#x2F;historical&#x2F;eu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;agsi.gie.eu&#x2F;#&#x2F;historical&#x2F;eu</a>
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igammaraysalmost 3 years ago
It&#x27;s far too late to change this. You cannot restructure the energy sources of a whole continent in a few months or even years. This could&#x27;ve been fixed if the West had understood and reacted appropriately to the magnitude of the Russian threat about 10 years ago, as foreseen by academics like Stephen Cohen and businessmen like Bill Browder, instead of blindly falling for its own hubristic self-delusion (which continues till today), i.e. the delusion of considering the West to be omnipotent and the delusion of considering Russia to be an irrelevant, backward, economically insignificant country (Obama famously called it a &quot;regional power&quot; much to the chagrin of Putin). But the West is too decadent, fat, and blind to see anything but its own narrative of post-cold-war unipolar dominance.<p>The worst part is, this delusion of believing in Western omnipotence continues fuelling bad decisions today. I was in Kharkiv, Ukraine when the war hit -- there were two major delusions prevalent in the weeks and months leading up to the war. 1. People believed the war could not happen because we believed our American superpower ally would somehow magically prevent the war or stop it quickly, or 2. we believed our leaders would have the sense to settle with Russia instead of destroying our country. 4 months later after losing 20% of our territory, both fantasies evaporated quickly, but I&#x27;m astounded at how many people continue to live in the 3rd fantasy of believing Ukraine could somehow &quot;defeat&quot; Russia while still avoiding WW3. Do people understand what a defeat of Russia would look like? Are you trying to bring a global thermonuclear war apocalypse? What is your endgame here?
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moistlyalmost 3 years ago
The comments here are IMO definitive proof that Democracy is doomed because its citizens DGAF: too many are all too willing to lick the boots of the nearest authoritarian so long as they aren’t too terribly inconvenienced. Y’all gonna get what you deserve… I just wish your foolishness wasn’t going to drag me down with you.
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londons_explorealmost 3 years ago
Gas to europe isn&#x27;t the disaster many forsee.<p>If Europe loses gas supplies tomorrow, they would:<p>* Build coal gasification plants (they&#x27;re fairly simple things, and don&#x27;t require much special equipment - there are lots that already exist unused and are over 100 years old). Switch about a quarter of towns to &#x27;town gas&#x27; rather than natural gas.<p>* cut down heating to only about half of buildings - &#x27;stay with a friend&#x27; will be policy for the winter months.<p>* Switch off street lighting and other big non-critical electricity users.<p>* Shut down energy heavy industries - much of this has already happened because energy prices mean it isn&#x27;t economical to make glass, pottery, aluminium, steel, etc.<p>* Don&#x27;t interfere much with market prices - allow them to go sky high. But give each premises an energy credit approximately enough to heat and light one room for free - after that you pay sky high prices.<p>Using that strategy, current reserves would last 1 year at least.
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raszalmost 3 years ago
&quot;Tomorrow Russia will take Nord Stream 1 offline&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;PascalLTH&#x2F;status&#x2F;1546174453331230721" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;PascalLTH&#x2F;status&#x2F;1546174453331230721</a><p>and might keep it offline until Germany bends the knee.
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superphil0almost 3 years ago
Here is another visualization of gas flow of Nordstream 1 I built<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pipelinestatus.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pipelinestatus.com&#x2F;</a>
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mistrial9almost 3 years ago
bizarre to see strident, demanding stances among the replies since it is <i>war</i> but no mention of continuous public interest for thirty+ years to transition away from fossil fuels, discounted or ignored. No mention of efficiency anywhere to be found? &quot;nega-watts&quot; is from the 1970s. The current energy mix and its real-politik fossil fuel investors is taking down the biosphere harder than any regional firefight IMHO.
hintymadalmost 3 years ago
Honest question: Isn&#x27;t it true that we should have peace through strength? If so, I don&#x27;t see how it&#x27;s a good strategy to have heavy dependency on Russian oil and gas while shutting down a country&#x27;s own nuclear plants and other energy initiatives and go all in green. Or maybe the strategy is if Russian depletes its natural resources, we will win eventually?
clemensleyalmost 3 years ago
Two days ago the German government voted to to shut off the three remaining nuclear power plants. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faz.net&#x2F;aktuell&#x2F;wirtschaft&#x2F;klima-nachhaltigkeit&#x2F;bundestag-gibt-gruenes-licht-fuer-kohlekraftwerke-als-gas-ersatz-18157912.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faz.net&#x2F;aktuell&#x2F;wirtschaft&#x2F;klima-nachhaltigkeit&#x2F;...</a>
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timonokoalmost 3 years ago
Luckily Europe has endless resource of renewable energy. And that is peat. Finnish peat fields alone surpass oil reserves of Norway. Also money-vice. Gas generation from peat is simple process.
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shmerlalmost 3 years ago
How fast did the rest of Europe cut ties with Nazi Germany after World War II started? Current level of feeding Russia&#x27;s war machine looks bizarre.
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gpvosalmost 3 years ago
That last graph[0] is... disturbing.<p>[0] &quot;Energy content of gas storage sites in the EU&quot;. At the time of posting, it is mostly smooth but has a very steep drop at the end. from about 77 to 58 GW*year.
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Hamukoalmost 3 years ago
Dead?