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Lin Zexu's Letter to Queen Victoria (1839)

78 pointsby dmitriy_koalmost 3 years ago

13 comments

neither_coloralmost 3 years ago
&gt;We find your country is sixty or seventy thousand li [three li make one mile, ordinarily] from China Yet there are barbarian ships that strive to come here for trade for the purpose of making a great profit. The wealth of China is used to profit the barbarians. That is to say, the great profit made by barbarians is all taken from the rightful share of China. By what right do they then in return use the poisonous drug to injure the Chinese people? Even though the barbarians may not necessarily intend to do us harm, yet in coveting profit to an extreme, they have no regard for injuring others. Let us ask, where is your conscience? I have heard that the smoking of opium is very strictly forbidden by your country; that is because the harm caused by opium is clearly understood. Since it is not permitted to do harm to your own country, then even less should you let it be passed on to the harm of other countries -- how much less to China! Of all that China exports to foreign countries, there is not a single thing which is not beneficial to people: they are of benefit when eaten, or of benefit when used, or of benefit when resold: all are beneficial. Is there a single article from China which has done any harm to foreign countries?<p>&gt;Suppose there were people from another country who carried opium for sale to England and seduced your people into buying and smoking it; certainly your honorable ruler would deeply hate it and be bitterly aroused. We have heard heretofore that your honorable ruler is kind and benevolent.<p>&gt;We have further learned that in London, the capital of your honorable rule, and in Scotland, Ireland, and other places, originally no opium has been produced. Only in several places of India under your control such as Bengal, Madras, Bombay, Patna, Benares, and Malwa has opium been planted from hill to hill, and ponds have been opened for its manufacture. For months and years work is continued in order to accumulate the poison. The obnoxious odor ascends, irritating heaven and frightening the spirits. Indeed you, O King, can eradicate the opium plant in these places, hoe over the fields entirely, and sow in its stead the five grains [millet, barley, wheat, etc.]. Anyone who dares again attempt to plant and manufacture opium should be severely punished. This will really be a great, benevolent government policy that will increase the common weal and get rid of evil. For this, Heaven must support you and the spirits must bring you good fortune, prolonging your old age and extending your descendants. All will depend on this act.<p>Reading this was pretty sad. So many vain appeals to reason. &quot;We know you know it&#x27;s bad for you, you&#x27;ve banned it yourself, please stop dumping it on us.&quot; Unfortunately the people he wrote that letter to didnt see them as equals.
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Hayvokalmost 3 years ago
And queue the first Opium War.<p>The Chinese did indeed start a crackdown on opium trade after this, including sending troops to seize warehouses full of it. This action sparked off the first Opium War with Britian, and kicking off the so-called Chinese “Century of Humiliation”.
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heratyianalmost 3 years ago
Imperial Twilight by Stephen Platt gives this letter a lot of context <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Imperial-Twilight-Opium-Chinas-Golden-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B074YK9NHS&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?keywords=imperial+twilight&amp;qid=1657856827&amp;sprefix=imperial+twi%2Caps%2C80&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Imperial-Twilight-Opium-Chinas-Golden...</a>
bshepardalmost 3 years ago
One thing to keep in mind is that the Ching government had already launched an opium war before the British began their narcopolitics. This is from P.E Caquet&#x27;s &quot;Opium&#x27;s Orphans&quot;<p>“n the leafy town of Taiyu, Shanxi, an inland Chinese province southwest of Beijing, the district magistrate Chen Lihe had a stele put up for public display. The date was 1817 and, four years earlier, the emperor had issued a raft of regulations against opium, including severe punishments for handling, selling or consuming it. The stele read: Opium is produced beyond the seas, but its poison flows into China. Those who buy it and consume it break their families, harm their own lives, and violate the law. Treachery, licentiousness, robbery, and brigandage all arise from it. Both the young and vigorous and the old and weak die from it. Wealthy and luxurious houses are impoverished by it. Brave and bright sons and younger brothers are made stupid and unfilial by it. People who dwell in peace in their houses well stocked with delicacies feel the heavy blows of the bamboo and the weight of the cangue because of it; they also suffer strangulation, exile, and banishment at the hands of the law because of it. As for its injurious effect on custom, opium destroys the five natural relationships, and its harmful effect on individual character is even more unspeakable.&quot;
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cosmojulisalmost 3 years ago
Chinese court rejects Canadian’s appeal against death sentence for drug smuggling <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;08&#x2F;10&#x2F;china&#x2F;china-robert-schellenberg-lost-appeal-intl-hnk&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;08&#x2F;10&#x2F;china&#x2F;china-robert-schellenbe...</a><p>Singapore executes disabled Malaysian convicted in drug case <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2022&#x2F;04&#x2F;27&#x2F;1094965375&#x2F;singapore-executes-disabled-malaysian-convicted-in-drug-case" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2022&#x2F;04&#x2F;27&#x2F;1094965375&#x2F;singapore-executes...</a>
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rsynnottalmost 3 years ago
&gt; Take tea and rhubarb, for example; the foreign countries cannot get along for a single day without them.<p>I&#x27;m curious where the idea that rhubarb was a major dependency came from. Or indeed the idea that it was a Chinese monopoly; it was grown in Europe in this era.
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kogusalmost 3 years ago
This is timely- I happen to be reading Tai-Pan by James Clavell at the moment, which is a wonderful bit of historical fiction set at this time.
dr_dshivalmost 3 years ago
For more context, here is a great, brief history of the Opium wars:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.historic-uk.com&#x2F;HistoryUK&#x2F;HistoryofBritain&#x2F;First-Opium-War&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.historic-uk.com&#x2F;HistoryUK&#x2F;HistoryofBritain&#x2F;First...</a>
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nigerian1981almost 3 years ago
I highly recommend the Ibis Trilogy by Indian novelist Amitav Ghosh about the Opium Wars
itbehoalmost 3 years ago
Makes one wonder about the flood of fentanyl coming in to the US from China.
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la64710almost 3 years ago
The behavior of the few barbarians undid all the good work done by the company to help both the nations. And sadly the queen did not do anything to stop the barbarians.
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ttfleealmost 3 years ago
FYI, Celestial grace in his letter meant the grace of Qing Emperor, and Celestial Court the Qing Government. Lin&#x27;s perspective was pretty Qing-centric which was of course orthodox in his ideology. The letter reads so supercilious as if it were written by someone much worse than D. Trump. I doubt if the messenger had the guts to deliver or just burnt it silently.
beebmamalmost 3 years ago
For sure, the UK was deeply responsible for so much death and suffering from the Opium trade in China in this era.<p>Just like modern China (and Mexico) should be considered deeply responsible for the current massive opioid crisis in the United States: 1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dea.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;2020-03&#x2F;DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%20Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dea.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;2020-03&#x2F;DEA_GOV_DIR-...</a> 2. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;underground-labs-china-are-devising-potent-new-opiates-faster-authorities-can-respond" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;underground-labs-chi...</a> 3. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;916890880&#x2F;we-are-shipping-to-the-u-s-china-s-fentanyl-sellers-find-new-routes-to-drug-user" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.npr.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;17&#x2F;916890880&#x2F;we-are-shipping-to-...</a> 4. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.brookings.edu&#x2F;research&#x2F;china-and-synthetic-drugs-control-fentanyl-methamphetamines-and-precursors&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.brookings.edu&#x2F;research&#x2F;china-and-synthetic-drugs...</a>
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