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I'm hosting a website on a RAID0 of 30 floppy drives

290 pointsby LarryPagealmost 3 years ago

43 comments

Nextgridalmost 3 years ago
I'd expect the vast majority of IO requests to be served from the kernel's IO cache (we're talking 30 * 1.44MBs here so just under 50MB, trivial for even an old computer to hold in RAM), thus I wouldn't be surprised for it to be very fast and reliable as long as he sticks to read-only workloads - those would never actually touch the floppies beyond the initial read.
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game-of-throwsalmost 3 years ago
You're playing with fire using RAID0. If I had data on 30 floppy drives, I'd want at least 20 of them to be parity drives.
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hardwaresoftonalmost 3 years ago
This is <i>awesome</i>. I already have some suggestions:<p>- Put a bird^H^H ZFS on it<p>- Switch to RAID10 (a stripe of mirrors), and go 2&#x2F;3 floppys wide so you can have some redundancy in each mirror gropu<p>- Get some Pis (or other SBCs) and hook those up and run Ceph... if this keeps going we&#x27;ll have a SAN soon enough.<p>- ZIP disks?[0]<p>Also, I don&#x27;t think I ever want to hear of the &quot;hug of death&quot; for any site ever again -- I don&#x27;t think this site hosted on 30 floppies was hugged to death.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Zip_drive" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Zip_drive</a>
ryanmarralmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve got a Power Mac G5 sitting right beside me if someone else wants to buy it and get into this G5 floppy website business.
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AnnikaLalmost 3 years ago
See also: his video about RAIDs of floppy drives (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1hc52_PWeU8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1hc52_PWeU8</a>).
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throwaway742almost 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20220715175852if_&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;totallynormalwebsite.ddns.net&#x2F;megafloppy.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20220715175852if_&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;totally...</a>
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layer8almost 3 years ago
Let’s coordinate our web accesses so that it sounds like Floppotron playing the Imperial March.
h2odragonalmost 3 years ago
turn off the error reporting so you get whats read rather than an error interrupt and watch the bitrot. Never did that in linux but it wouldn&#x27;t surprise me if its a driver option.
IncRndalmost 3 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;OzYfT" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;OzYfT</a>
a_calmost 3 years ago
Well, did we just hug it to death? Hope the floppies are doing fine... Look forward to an update
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dcambiealmost 3 years ago
Interesting stats at <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;totallynormalwebsite.ddns.net&#x2F;server-status" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;totallynormalwebsite.ddns.net&#x2F;server-status</a>
mikedelagoalmost 3 years ago
There&#x27;s an accompanying video as well:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1hc52_PWeU8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1hc52_PWeU8</a>
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geerlingguyalmost 3 years ago
Today there&#x27;s a follow-up video: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;PGWpGMrroi8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;PGWpGMrroi8</a>
GekkePrutseralmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised this actually still works. As far as I remember those floppies were super unreliable.<p>Though this may have been caused by me being in school and having to buy crappy white label ones. Couldn&#x27;t afford those fancy imation ones with all the games I copied lol.
deelowealmost 3 years ago
Not anymore!
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hk1337almost 3 years ago
That has to be one noisy room.
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CodeWriter23almost 3 years ago
For my next trick, a website hosted on a RAID0 Array of 60 RAM Disks.
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tablespoonalmost 3 years ago
This looks like it&#x27;s a page about a related project, and has a video of the RAID in action: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;06&#x2F;30&#x2F;its-raid-with-floppy-drives&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackaday.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;06&#x2F;30&#x2F;its-raid-with-floppy-drives&#x2F;</a>
fsiefkenalmost 3 years ago
i&#x27;d be also interested in hosting a website on 1 floppy drive, including OS. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bits.p1x.in&#x2F;floppinux-an-embedded-linux-on-a-single-floppy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bits.p1x.in&#x2F;floppinux-an-embedded-linux-on-a-single-...</a>
shortformblogalmost 3 years ago
Sean rules and this may be his craziest experiment yet. That’s all.
bennyp101almost 3 years ago
The parcel tape holding bits together is just <i>chefs kiss</i>
lostgamealmost 3 years ago
Hahaha, not for long; not on the front page of HN…I can see it’s got the old ‘Hug of Death’, but I’m curious to how long it lasted and how loud the result was.
UberFlyalmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m guessing the floppies are melting right about now.
iasayalmost 3 years ago
I can hear that dying from here.<p>Anyone want to try RAID0 on QIC tapes?
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dpedualmost 3 years ago
How much power do the floppy drives draw? I can&#x27;t decide if it would be more or less than 30 period hard drives.
DontchaKnowitalmost 3 years ago
project is awesome.<p>Also-<p>Tell me you&#x27;re into Chiodos without telling me you&#x27;re into Chiodos.<p>Big ol dose of nostalgia listening to your old metalcore tracks.
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eimrinealmost 3 years ago
So fast website, is it possible to shrink it to one floppy for seeing some slowingness?
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lizardactivistalmost 3 years ago
I can&#x27;t even imagine what defragmenting that file-system would sound like.
ISLalmost 3 years ago
This is amazing. Website exceeded the high expectations set by the title.
AddingValuealmost 3 years ago
Well guess not anymore, because the article is down?
pulketoalmost 3 years ago
I wish I have a dumb idea someday... And win some money
random_savvalmost 3 years ago
Interesting user name
FesterCluckalmost 3 years ago
Totally dig the track, brings back memories.
Zachsa999almost 3 years ago
Site seems to be really slow currently.
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la64710almost 3 years ago
5.1&#x2F;4 inch or 3.5 inch ones?
Pakdefalmost 3 years ago
LoL is all I can think of
tolstoshevalmost 3 years ago
The song&#x27;s not bad!
notnmeyeralmost 3 years ago
all i want to do is see this site :(<p>&gt; Server uptime: 20 seconds<p>&gt; Server load: 157.41 158.15 155.66<p>oh
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mbfgalmost 3 years ago
and..... the most unsurprising thing ever.....
aliqotalmost 3 years ago
pause on the audio doesnt work.
anaganiskalmost 3 years ago
Imagine a floppy disk based old server surviving “Hug of deaths” while the latest react based static website hosted on Kubernetes for infinite scalability on baremetal dies in like 5 sec.
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mmh0000almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve corrected the title: &quot;I was hosting a website on a RAID0 of 30 floppy drives — now my house is on fire&quot;
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MikeAshley178almost 3 years ago
Wonder how long until I can ruin it with Python and Requests.<p>P.S I am not going to and I am drunk.