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Porn use and men's and women's sexual performance

163 pointsby jinjin2almost 3 years ago

14 comments

Comeviusalmost 3 years ago
This wasn&#x27;t in the paper, but men in general tend to be geared toward non-emotional stimulus and action-oriented thinking. Their supernormal stimulus is hardcore and paraphilic porn for this reason, which then of course invokes unfavorable comparisons, because of how unrealistic they are.<p>Women in general respond to emotional stimulus better. Their supernormal stimulus is erotic romance, also known to create unrealistic expectations, however these expectations are about men, not the readers themselves.<p>I don&#x27;t know porn much, but I know erotic romance, and it&#x27;s central thesis is that it&#x27;s a form of fantasy in which the MFC (main female character) is wanted by one, sometimes two (menage) and occasionally more (reverse harem) MMCs (main male characters). The allure is that she is the center of their world. HEA (happily ever after) is usually expected, especially for romance, and cheating is forbidden. Alpha males, billionaires, daddy and stepbrother types are the most popular MMCs, along with aliens and monsters. The pattern is being able to tame, or at least withstand or even enjoy something possessive, dominant and aggressive. Another pattern is being able to lay down the burden of having to be in control, or having adult responsibilities altogether. Women also enjoy reading about gay men, reportedly because they don&#x27;t have to identify with an MFC. In romance it is important to create an emotional framework that explains why the characters want each other, and in erotic romance this can happen through sexual discovery. Being fated to be together is a popular, if lazy framework. Erotica without an emotional framework is much less popular and hard to monetize because the payment processors are squeamish of adult content in the first place and the readers tend to feel bad about just erotica, which is a recipe for disaster. Reportedly erotic romance actually helps women improve their sexual life, perhaps because it encourages sexual discovery.
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zasdffaaalmost 3 years ago
A question. I&#x27;ve no problem with hardcore porn but I&#x27;m put off by badly by some of what I assume to be porn oriented at men; completely emotionless robotic banging. Porn for women is much more affectionate and for me that makes it so much more enjoyable. I really want to see people genuinely having a good time or (to me) what&#x27;s the point.<p>I don&#x27;t know if I&#x27;m unusual in this but I&#x27;d like to know what other people think. I seriously wonder if a lot of porn produced is aimed at what the studios think the audience want rather than actually finding out if it is. I could well be wrong though.<p>No judgement on anyone for liking what I don&#x27;t, that&#x27;s fine.<p>So, is it just me?
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superchromaalmost 3 years ago
&quot;The results revealed a twofold phenomenon. Among men, a higher frequency of porn use and increased porn use over time were associated with lower levels of sexual self-competence, impaired sexual functioning, and decreased partner-reported sexual satisfaction. In contrast, among women, higher and increasing frequencies of porn use were associated with higher levels of sexual self-competence, improved sexual functioning, and enhanced partner-reported sexual satisfaction (for some aspects).&quot;
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dundariousalmost 3 years ago
Sample collection was from solicitation by a YouTuber:<p>&gt; In June 2015, the French YouTuber Mathieu Sommet posted an online video that invited his followers to complete a questionnaire entitled ‘Sexual profile of adults’.^2 A total of 171 462 participants (18+ year-olds) started the questionnaire, and 101 572 finished it.<p>There’s probably some value in the study, but it’s probably inappropriate to draw hard conclusions from it (pun not intended).
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tmshalmost 3 years ago
This assumes sexual performance in a relationship is worth optimizing for. There may be many other factors at play. Reduction of time spent thinking sexual thoughts. Partner’s with a reduced sex drive or disability etc. Just worth bearing in mind the study (which is very useful&#x2F;interesting) looks at just one objective.<p>There’s also the degree and how long one looks at porn. And how that can free up time for other things that are attractive in relationships (financial security etc). As a hypothetical consider a person who looks at porn for 5min every two days, and stays very focused on accumulating wealth for a few years and then reduces this and focuses more on sexual performance.
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unknownskyalmost 3 years ago
I suspect this is because porn is usually (not always) made by men, for men. Women watching porn learn about what men like. Men watching porn get further entrenched in their own desires, and learn to expect that sex will play out in a way that they themselves prefer.
emptysongglassalmost 3 years ago
Wife and I are in an open relationship, this is anecdotal: number of men she&#x27;s hooked up with who get performance anxiety is massive like it&#x27;s at least 60 to 70 percent of men who have a hard time getting and maintaining an erection.
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superb-owlalmost 3 years ago
&gt; The findings reveal the irony that porn – a male-dominated industry that targets a male-dominated audience – is associated with the erosion of the quality of men&#x27;s sex lives and the improvement of women&#x27;s sex lives<p>I wonder if the effect would hold if there were more porn that caters to women. Or if consumption of romance novels has a similar but inverted effect.
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jquaintalmost 3 years ago
From the paper<p>&gt; Accordingly, and contrary to what is often suggested in popular books on the psychology of pornography (e.g. Zimbardo &amp; Coulombe, Reference Zimbardo and Coulombe2015), men who face sexual problems and choose to terminate porn use may experience only marginal improvements in their sexual lives (assuming that we can draw causal inferences from our findings); similarly, women who face sexual problems might be well advised not to consider porn use to be a sexual panacea.<p>This is interesting for sure but you can&#x27;t draw sweeping conclusions from this research.
tpoacheralmost 3 years ago
&gt; The findings reveal the irony that porn – a male-dominated industry♧ that targets a male-dominated audience♤– is associated with the erosion of the quality of men&#x27;s sex lives and the improvement of women&#x27;s sex lives.<p>Are ♧ and ♤ true? Or did the paper just make this factoid up on the spot? My gut feeling would have been that it&#x27;s dominated by women instead, and that the audience skewness would be a reflection of that more than anything.
georgia_peachalmost 3 years ago
<i>The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times</i><p>Latest example: Taylorism, applied to the bedroom.
badrabbitalmost 3 years ago
Porn alters how you see yourself and how you interact with others as a result.
throwaway81523almost 3 years ago
Ok, I went and RTFA&#x27;d even though most of us probably want just 1 bit from the article (1=it helps 0=it hurts).<p>Result (TLDR): for men, 0; for women, 1.
Ycombigatorzalmost 3 years ago
Porn&#x27;s main customer historically has been men, so it predominantly has fulfilled male needs.<p>In broad brush strokes : Women know what arouses men from watching porn. Men know what arouses themselves from watching porn.