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Ask HN: Do you feel burnout or form of trauma from hostile PR reviews?

6 pointsby ketaminealmost 3 years ago
I am feeling really burnt out at work and talking to my therapist she is asking why I always seem to feel defensive and I am realizing PRs trigger my anxiety from being nit picked and having borderline hostile PR reviews for the past few years.<p>I am really not sure what to do to break the cycle but I dread opening PRs at job and waste hours trying to guess what people are going to be critical of instead of just opening it and moving on.<p>Anyone else feel this way? Anyone have any advice?

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rucamzualmost 3 years ago
As someone who nowadays reviews way more often than gets reviewed, there are some of things I always try to keep in mind to prevent any hostility from my part and foster constructive code reviews.<p>First and foremost, I like to think that as a reviewer I&#x27;m there not to point out issues but to provide useful feedback to the author. I&#x27;m not a compiler, therefore I shouldn&#x27;t behave like one and dump error messages in the PR. Even if there are errors indeed.<p>Any and all feedback I provide is up for discussion. This is something I always like to highlight when I&#x27;m about to review someone else&#x27;s code for the first time, no matter their level or experience. I&#x27;d rather have my comments discussed and challenged than taken for granted as issues that automatically need to be addressed. I might even throw in the occassional curve ball that I know needs challenging :)<p>I firmly believe the way I word my comments matters, and matters a lot - and I like to think I&#x27;ve managed to improve a bit over the years. PR comments are not commit messages. I avoid imperatives and quite often phrase comments as questions instead. Also, I favor using &quot;we&quot; as opposed to &quot;you&quot; ; in the end, what gets merged is the result not only of the author&#x27;s but the whole team&#x27;s work.<p>Also, I try to leverage PRs to educate when possible. I frequently include FYI comments illustrating e.g. more idiomatic implementations, potential refactorings or applications of design patterns, not as something I expect the author to fix but to learn from. Code snippets and links to e.g. documentation pages or articles are great ways of enriching a comment and providing guidance beyond the PR itself.<p>Finally, all these are things that I love to see when someone is reviewing my own PRs.
mr90210almost 3 years ago
I used to feel kind of like that when I used to be part of a toxic team. I switched teams, and that feeling went away.<p>I eventually moved to a smaller company, and I worked to build a good relationship with my other peer.<p>Because I know what it feels like to have anxiety before submitting a PR, I will tell you the following: No one in the current times should be put under such environment when companies out there are desperate to hire developers.<p>Take care of yourself, mate!
rmkalmost 3 years ago
I just moved to a job with no pull request reviews, and I&#x27;m enjoying it. The flip side is that it&#x27;s very easy to have a major screw up that can mess things up big time, but there are tests and such which prevent major disasters. Further, one can do &#x27;cleanups&#x27; every once in a while to reduce tech debt.<p>A lot of places where there are insane PR reviews are where management has abdicated its responsibility to oversee code quality; essentially, it is poor leadership, where management is either too apathetic, swamped with unnecessary meetings, or just lacking in technical direction with too many changes in direction.<p>It&#x27;s almost always hard when you first start up at a place and get used to its standards when you merge your PRs the first few times, but if it is a recurring problem, then you are not at fault: the organization is fucked up.
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ggmalmost 3 years ago
Be your own harsh critic. I do find hostile PR stressful and I have both had to give them and got them. I stopped in management when I realised how unpleasant I found negative feedback processes. Trying to rectify a significant performance or behaviour issue is really hard.<p>Maybe you need to get to set expectations for delivery to a level you can achieve reliably, to get positive feedback for over achieving. If the company is obsessed with stretch goals push back a bit and rebalance the agenda.<p>Being willing to move roles or employer is out there. It&#x27;s peak intensity for stress but may be worth it.<p>Best of luck. Keep talking to the therapist. Believe in yourself and remember some people thrive on hostility and some use it to mask their own fears and insecurities.
codingdavealmost 3 years ago
Repeat this exact question to your team - it will either let them know that you have a problem to fix together. and give you an opportunity to do so... or it will let you know that they aren&#x27;t going to change and this is not a healthy place for you to remain.