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Ask HN: Does anyone use FreeBSD or OpenBSD as a daily environment?

30 pointsby stakkuralmost 3 years ago
Over the years, I&#x27;ve used MacOS and Linux, sometimes switching between the two. I&#x27;m curious to know if any readers use one of these BSD distros as a daily driver&#x2F;dev environment, especially on laptops.<p>NOTE: Not seeking to start an OS flame war or info dump of what BSD is.

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vermadenalmost 3 years ago
I do since around 2007.<p>Here a screenshot from 2010 of that FreeBSD laptop&#x2F;desktop:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deviantart.com&#x2F;vermaden&#x2F;art&#x2F;CorporateBSD-FreeBSD-at-Work-190680188" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.deviantart.com&#x2F;vermaden&#x2F;art&#x2F;CorporateBSD-FreeBSD...</a><p>After years of using it I slightly modified it to better suite my needs:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vermaden.wordpress.com&#x2F;freebsd-desktop&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vermaden.wordpress.com&#x2F;freebsd-desktop&#x2F;</a><p>I have used that FreeBSD on these laptops for all those years:<p>- Dell E6400 - ThinkPad W530 - ThinkPad T420s - ThinkPad X220 - ThinkPad T520 - ThinkPad W520 &lt;= currently used one<p>This is my current setup:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vermaden.wordpress.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;freebsd-13-1-on-thinkpad-w520&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vermaden.wordpress.com&#x2F;2022&#x2F;04&#x2F;14&#x2F;freebsd-13-1-on-th...</a><p>Hope that helps.<p>Regards.
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t-3almost 3 years ago
I use OpenBSD on my daily driver laptop and a few other appliances. It&#x27;s great, but depending on the features and software you need, might not fit your usecase. No bluetooth, no Linux compatibility layer, no WINE, smaller selection of ports, no PCI passthru... A lot of the Linux-targeted embedded and FPGA toolchain software is either unavailable or not straightforward to build on OpenBSD too.
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mikem170almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m currently a very happy OpenBSD user. I&#x27;ve stuck with Thinkpad laptops because I know they are well supported (sleep, hibernate, etc). OpenBSD does everything I want to do - I&#x27;m running a couple&#x2F;few web browsers for different occasions, claws-mail, I&#x27;ve got my music collection (with a small usb bluetooth dongle), podcasts, camera and favorite paint program, voip, programming environment, other things I use less often like audacity, gnumeric, some astrophotography software I got from github, video editing, etc. I run fvwm as my desktop, which is included as part of the base system.<p>I tend to eschew software that requires proprietary operating systems or drm. I&#x27;ve grown more opinionated on that as time goes by and proprietary and coprorate software gets more and more user hostile. I don&#x27;t have a problem finding alternatives for myself.<p>Over the past couple decades I&#x27;ve switched from Windows to Redhat to Debian to FreeBSD before settling on OpenBSD. I appreciate how stable OpenBSD is over time. I appreciate that it&#x27;s a very consistent and well documented OS. I got really tired of having to fiddle and fix stuff that gets moved around with system&#x2F;gcc&#x2F;gettext&#x2F;python&#x2F;java&#x2F;gnome&#x2F;etc updates, over and over and over again as the years go by, and OpenBSD does a good job of avoiding that. I&#x27;m sure it helps that I&#x27;ve become more of a minimalist, too. It&#x27;s nice to have a pc that runs the way I want it to, and stays that way. I can&#x27;t get back all the time I spent tweaking systems that no longer exist.<p>I&#x27;ve setup my current OpenBSD system with a shell script that I can run after a fresh install to put in place all my system, user, and website configurations (I also run OpenBSD on a vps, an extra beater&#x2F;travel laptop, and an old desktop I use for backups). This works out nice, I can document all my config settings in these shell scripts, why I did certain things, document dependencies, future enhancement ideas, etc.
hd99almost 3 years ago
I do. two laptops, even if I have warnings regarding usage : if you do like (as I do) having software regarding good hw support, well, I sadly had to exclude nvidia-only-GC-based laptop because it&#x27;s only vesa (means 100% loading on your CPU instead gpu), or the same regarding wifi.<p>I do really like openbsd. On my machines, laptops, I do have triboot win&#x2F;nux&#x2F;bsd. Nux is LMDE5, debian with cool&#x2F;glamour&#x2F;user-ended focused debian distro. Then openbsd running isotop project, means dwm adapted for end users or devs, for the one whom have low specs of hardware (2013 laptop, still running today), plus xfce on another asus, whom wifi AND amd radeon chips are well supported. sadly, my main lenovo have only integrated intel graphics (not so sad) but my broadcom is not detected for wifi, I use it only once a week, mainly in places I have no internet. Please be careful regarding filesystems, openbsd is a very specific area, ext4 is just nobody for that os.<p>excepted filesystems, wifi&#x2F;graphical hardware support, plus sometime the lack of &quot;trended&quot;-software ports (eg falkon, and others) to the system, in less than four months I adopted it ; on my hp, Im using LO to write (or wordgrinder), plus thundie for my mails, and firefox&#x2F;iridium&#x2F;midori.<p>Veracrypt is supported since latest version. And with time passes, lot of new features, even if it&#x27;s designed for specific or servers systems, makes system greater. In addition, everything is made to make the system tailored to your needs and wishes. I do really like it, including the &#x2F;home encyphered part.<p>to finish, I would say trying openbsd is like learning arabic : only the beginning -the installation- is the most &quot;complicated&quot; thing, with everything in command line, including the slices (aka subpartitions) ; then I added it to grub2, then installed isotop or&#x2F;and xfce and you have a good environment of work.<p>why openbsd? because its C coding (best of all) because its highly secured. because its a demanding project for his maintainers and teams because of purety of code because its one among the rare systems you can use on desktops&#x2F;laptops (not only thinkpads!) as haiku, whom is not a linux system.<p>I would add : why-openbsd (dot) rocks isopenbsdsecu (dot) re enjoy!
runjakealmost 3 years ago
Applicable comments threads from a couple days ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32369189" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32369189</a>
soupbowlalmost 3 years ago
Never had problems with FreeBSD on a desktop using nvidia graphics and Ethernet. I used it on a laptop a few times but WiFi was always an issue, I assume Bluetooth would be too but I never use it.<p>I suggest staying on the &quot;stable&quot; pkg mirrors and stay away from &quot;latest&quot; as you end up updating your desktop packages often and there is a greater chance of problems.<p>I usually use xfce as the desktop and it works well.
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lambdabaalmost 3 years ago
Piggybacking on this thread because I&#x27;m also interested, specifically in using FreeBSD on a 2019 MacBook and using docker on Linux trough bhyve. How well does FreeBSD run on a MacBook? Any compatibility issues?
greggybalmost 3 years ago
I daily drive FreeBSD on my desktop, which covers personal, dev, and professional collaboration use cases. Any modern cloudy things work just fine in a browser, e.g., Microsoft Teams and the rest of their office stack, or other conferencing platforms. For everything else, I use FOSS software.<p>I run OpenBSD on one of my laptops for personal use, as well as on my home router (an x86 mini pc with multiple NICs). I have no trouble with either.
_aboxalmost 3 years ago
Yes I do. With KDE. I&#x27;m very happy about it. I moved from macOS as I disagreed with most of Apple&#x27;s choices in recent versions. Now I feel in control of my computer again.<p>I&#x27;m not into laptops though and I heard the latest WiFi cards may be a problem. For me it&#x27;s not an issue at all though. But I suggest to try it out :)
effdeealmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using FreeBSD as a desktop for almost 20 years. Currently running, uhm, CURRENT on an older Thinkpad.<p>Using FreeBSD as a desktop won&#x27;t be fun unless one enjoys a raw and rather spartanic UNIX experience, I guess.
atemerevalmost 3 years ago
I used to (a year ago): the only problem I had is debugging Python with PyCharm, everything else worked flawlessly. It even has working proprietary Nvidia drivers.
ruslanalmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;m heavy FreeBSD user, it is the only OS on my Lenovo Ideapad 3 Gaming laptop and I&#x27;m pretty happy with it.
markus_zhangalmost 3 years ago
I heard security people sometimes use it as host, can someone in the industry confirm?
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joshxyzalmost 3 years ago
no i dont even know how. anyone can enlighten me on its advantage over ubuntu desktop?