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Hetzner Price Adjustment

282 pointsby gmemstralmost 3 years ago

22 comments

rr888almost 3 years ago
Its fascinating that electricity is really the biggest cost of computing. I put a server in my house which was supposed to save money, but actually the electricity cost was something I hadn't thought of and really adds up. esp when the AC has to run to remove the extra heat. So much old hardware out there but its going to get junked as new hw is more efficient.
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lukeqseealmost 3 years ago
While the pricing is interesting, I think the fact it is driven by the input costs of electricity is even more telling.<p>The fact that electricity costs is the dominating (edit, correction: <i>marginal</i>) cost of cloud computing basically means that:<p>1) We&#x27;re up against physical barriers to lowering the cost (and ecological impact) of our clouds.<p>2) Optimizing for less compute will pay multi-fold dividends over the next few years where we can expect energy prices to continue rising.<p>3) Building more power-efficient chips is a big deal, and I&#x27;m glad to see more general ARM deployment, given their efficiency gains.
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zarothalmost 3 years ago
Server pricing, potato pricing, I suppose every product has some energy component baked into the price. Probably more than I might even guess…<p>High electricity price, and high energy cost in general, is probably the biggest regressive tax that humans face.<p>Not just in direct energy and gas consumption, but in the baseline increases that flow through to all the essential goods that households purchase.<p>New energy generation technologies must not only be cleaner, but also more efficient. It is so crucially important to raising standards of living to ensure a reliable supply of cheap energy.
dangerfacealmost 3 years ago
Love Hetzner great to see a hosting company thats being upfront and transparent about its prices.<p>So tired of hosting companies doing dodgy stuff with their pricing like giving you the first month 99% off but wording it like you will pay that month to month.
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xvilkaalmost 3 years ago
Maybe at least increasing energy costs will force people and companies to ditch Electron-based &quot;programs&quot; (or Java&#x2F;NodeJS in case of servers). Native is much more energy efficient by definition.
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elorantalmost 3 years ago
I have a bunch of servers in an apartment I use as a secondary office space. Monthly electricity cost increased by 230%. It’s like that since January. Hetzner’s 10% seems too low, although the increase is calculated on the total price of the server, so I guess it could be sufficient. I won’t be surprised if they further increase their prices in the near future.
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cbmuseralmost 3 years ago
The result of shutting down nuclear plants. ¯\_(ツ)_&#x2F;¯
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ChuckNorris89almost 3 years ago
<p><pre><code> Germany € 0.29&#x2F;kWh € 0.45&#x2F;kWh Finland € 0.12&#x2F;kWh € 0.22&#x2F;kWh </code></pre> Damn, why is electricity in Germany over twice as expensive as in Finland?<p>I doubt Germans have twice the purchasing power as Finns.
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Ekarosalmost 3 years ago
0.22€&#x2F;kWh is actually pretty reasonable looking at what current long term contracts are offered in Finland.
Semaphoralmost 3 years ago
Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.
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aaaaaaaaaaabalmost 3 years ago
Just write efficient software, then you won’t need that many servers.
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076ae80a-3c97-4almost 3 years ago
Really annoying that they&#x27;re not publishing the new prices now, we have to wait until 1st September.
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candiddevmikealmost 3 years ago
Will this affect their US cloud (ASH)? I didn&#x27;t see it listed but they mention all locations.
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rgjalmost 3 years ago
Guess this is something that has been going on for much longer already.<p>Leaseweb has been raising their prices because of higher electricity costs on February 1st, and recently DigitalOcean raised their price by even 20%.
sremanialmost 3 years ago
If I am running Hetzner, I will be looking at an aggressive North American expansion. The energy cost gap between US and Europe are going to get bigger.
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ur-whalealmost 3 years ago
Worth noting that most of Hetz infrastructure is deployed in EU, where cost of energy is hugely affected by events in Ukraine and Russia.
tafazi9090almost 3 years ago
Writing this on a new account because my main has been shadowbanned<p>Why don’t they switch to an alternative cooling method like ground cooling?
collegeburneralmost 3 years ago
aaaand thank goodness i&#x27;m on an american server host or else i&#x27;d probably be getting the same rn.
omega3almost 3 years ago
I&#x27;d have thought that these cloud providers would be pretty well insulated from the retail energy prices by their renewable energy generation.
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tzahifadidaalmost 3 years ago
Worth it, especially because of the reasons the prices of electricity went up.
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lovelearningalmost 3 years ago
Putin&#x27;s starting to get on my nerves.
nikolayalmost 3 years ago
Russophobia is a costly endeavour!