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An open letter to the Tesla fan who wants to run over a kid

71 pointsby camjohnson26almost 3 years ago

17 comments

Veservalmost 3 years ago
The person in question has already written a response to the open letter: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;WholeMarsBlog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1558122848601812993" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;WholeMarsBlog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1558122848601812993</a>
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CaliforniaKarlalmost 3 years ago
For more info on what’s doing on:<p>Controversy Erupts over Video of FSD Tesla Striking Child Mannequin (thedrive.com)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32444601" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32444601</a>
krnlpncalmost 3 years ago
Of course this half baked system that requires constant over the air bug fixes would plow through a kid in a crosswalk.<p>What puzzles me is that people actually bought into the marketing hype. Its a prototype quality car running alpha software…
wnevetsalmost 3 years ago
There is something seriously wrong with Elon fans.
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treesprite82almost 3 years ago
&gt; Don’t force a kid to walk in front of your 4,000-pound metal box traveling at god knows what speed<p>Some consolation, according to the tweet chain, is that it&#x27;ll be at 5MPH and the child wouldn&#x27;t be in front of the car (just on the sidewalk approaching the road). Still not sure the need to put an actual child at any risk when the car stopping for a dummy would prove the same point if not stronger.
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suidalmost 3 years ago
I mean, it&#x27;s not even that hard to put together a child-size dummy of ballistic gel (a la Mythbusters). Doesn&#x27;t have to be a work of art, and it should be indistinguishable from the real thing (in terms of radar signature, etc).<p>Why not just have someone put one on a low cart and drag it along the road in front of your speeding Tesla, and beta-test it that way? Isn&#x27;t Tesla doing that?
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tomatotomato37almost 3 years ago
Seems easiest solution is for those wanting to test this just use themselves. After all, a squatting or sitting adult Is same height as a child, it would be the perfect substitute!
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mysterydipalmost 3 years ago
How many times would you need to test it to verify it worked? Different time of day, weather, lighting, etc could change the outcome.
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contravariantalmost 3 years ago
Can someone explain to me what the point is in proving a Tesla won&#x27;t run over children provided it detects they are real?
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dieselgatealmost 3 years ago
There are so many deer around california&#x2F;oregon this time of year driving around outside of the city for a bit wouldn&#x27;t take too long to find one. Not the same though of course
tsolalmost 3 years ago
Why would you use a real child? That&#x27;s so dumb
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jacknewsalmost 3 years ago
I think he should let the kid drive the car, and then walk in front of it himself, on his knees so he&#x27;s kid-high.
trhralmost 3 years ago
Yeah, come on guy. Don&#x27;t use a kid, use a little person. They can consent.
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CaliforniaKarlalmost 3 years ago
The Twitter post in question (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wholemarsblog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1557112809132945408" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wholemarsblog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1557112809132945408</a>) says “(this is a serious request)”.<p>Fine, then let’s treat it like a serious request. Apparently someone volunteered a child (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wholemarsblog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1557206098876194816" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;wholemarsblog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1557206098876194816</a>, presumably their own child).<p>Has this (pseudonymous) person done a proper study workup? This is a proposal to put a child into a potentially life-threatening situation. I hope they’ve written up (and had reviewed) the rationale for why this can’t be simulated first. And I hope they’ve gotten the snapshot of the Tesla software used, for reference.<p>And for the person who volunteered their own child, I wonder if they should be talking to CPS right now.<p>The person who made the Twitter post mentioned the Bay Area. If they are serious, try going to a place like the Center for Automotive Research at Stanford, talking to the people there, and doing a study.
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haihaibyealmost 3 years ago
Instead of writing on open letter why not reply to the Twitter post?
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acer4666almost 3 years ago
I guess he should&#x27;ve run over a straw man instead, like the author of this letter
dannyobrienalmost 3 years ago
So I&#x27;ve mentioned this before -- traditionally, journalism involves reaching out to the person you&#x27;re writing about for comment before posting it. I wish they&#x27;d mark off as &quot;opinion&quot; pieces like this that clearly don&#x27;t follow those methods.
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