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Ask HN: Is there still an opportunity for an affordable CPanel alternative?

3 pointsby obihillalmost 3 years ago
&#x27;Asking because I&#x27;m considering building one.<p>I used to run a small Web hosting business and still manage a few client accounts. I moved these accounts [from a Web hosting reseller] to DigitalOcean about a year ago and installed CPanel because that&#x27;s what my clients are familiar with.<p>However, I&#x27;m paying more for the control panel license than for the actual servers; Cpanel makes up 60% of the total cost, and the server is 40%. This makes no economic sense to me. I guess I&#x27;ve been shielded from this because [before the transition] I used a hosting provider that required a flat monthly fee.<p>I&#x27;ve done some research on this and below are four (4) reasons why I see an opportunity:<p>1. The cheapest CPanel option is \$16 a month. The cheapest DigitalOcean droplet is \$4 a month; a gap that only a few users would tolerate. In addition, most of the negative feedback for CPanel on G2 and Capterra seems to be focused on pricing. 2. The minimum installation requirements for CPanel are 1Gb RAM and 20Gb HDD; recommended are 4Gb RAM and 40Gb HDD. So it&#x27;s not going to play nicely on entry-level, affordable cloud servers e.g. 512K RAM and 10Gb HDD. 3. The UI&#x2F;UX could be so much better than it currently is, especially for mobile and keyboard users. My apologies for not being more specific on account of time; if you have used CPanel you should have an intuitive sense of what I mean. To be fair, it has improved significantly over the years. 4. There&#x27;s an API and CLI, but it doesn&#x27;t appear to be a workable alternative to the GUI. From the docs, it seems like you have to use the CLI after you login to the server via SSH. The same goes for the API when using PHP&#x2F;Perl; the module to include in your API call script resides on the server. It all seems a tad unwieldy in this day and age.<p>All the tools I&#x27;m considering for building this are mature, free and open-source (React, Node.js, etc.). My timeline estimate is 7 to 10 months. My objective is not to build a CPanel clone; it&#x27;s to build a free to affordable GUI for cloud servers with a developer-friendly API and CLI.<p>It seems like a good opportunity, but I&#x27;m biased. Ergo, I&#x27;d like to get some perspective.<p>What say you?

4 comments

spcebaralmost 3 years ago
I&#x27;ve actually spent the last few days looking for a good free&#x2F;affordable cpanel alternative. I&#x27;ve tried four different options, none of which were very good. I think there&#x27;s definitely a place for what you&#x27;re describing, though I&#x27;d start your process by doing a lot of research into what users are specifically looking for.
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metalohaalmost 3 years ago
My advice is get out of the hosting business, it&#x27;s not worth the trouble at a small scale ;)<p>There is always room for another hosting administration system, though 7 to 10 months sounds pretty optimistic when considering the feature list you&#x27;ll need to even be seen as competitive with cPanel.<p>Webmin&#x2F;Virtualmin seems like it has the ability to manage multiple VPSes, so that might be a more realistic target for comparison.
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WallyFunkalmost 3 years ago
I like Hostinger&#x27;s[0] (proprietary) hPanel[1] which is like cPanel but essentially free and bundled with the cost of one of their plans.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hostinger.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hostinger.com&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hostinger.com&#x2F;tutorials&#x2F;video&#x2F;hpanel-overview" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hostinger.com&#x2F;tutorials&#x2F;video&#x2F;hpanel-overview</a>
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SwellJoealmost 3 years ago
I work on Virtualmin, and have for nearly two decades; most of that time as both a commercial product and Open Source project. It is an <i>extremely</i> competitive market, and it is a shrinking market. We&#x27;ve had about 150,000 active servers running Virtualmin GPL+Pro (give or take a few thousand) for the past several years, despite some new users fleeing from the cPanel price increases, and despite a major UI overhaul and lots of improvements in that time. The reason cPanel has raised their prices is that the specific market niche is dying and it is a very expensive product to support.<p>If you haven&#x27;t found the dozens of direct competitors to cPanel (at least a half-dozen of which are credible substitutes for most users), you haven&#x27;t done your market research effectively. According to the market data I have seen, Plesk is now the leader in the market, due to pretty effective deals with some of the largest providers. Nearly all of the competitors to cPanel are cheaper, and some are free, including Virtualmin GPL. And, the real problem for cPanel and all the other control panels isn&#x27;t even the other control panels, it&#x27;s all the other ways people are building sites and apps. We aren&#x27;t losing customers to other control panels, generally speaking; we lose them to completely different ways of doing things.<p>The traditional control panel market is shrinking as more and more people and companies move to cloud native deployments or to services like Squarespace&#x2F;Wix&#x2F;WordPress.com&#x2F;Shopify&#x2F;etc. Developers have been moving to the cloud, small business has been moving to easier to use site builder type services. Shared and VPS hosting is feeling the squeeze on both sides.<p>There are opportunities there in both directions, even in easing the transition for people currently on shared or VPS hosting, and it may even be that some of the control panel makers will make that leap, but it&#x27;s a whole new paradigm. There&#x27;s not a lot of shared code between what cPanel (or any of the dozens of competitors) does and what a cloud native deployment looks like or the services on the low-end (the SquareSpace&#x2F;Wix&#x2F;WordPress.com&#x2F;Shopify niche) look like. We&#x27;ve been moving in the cloud native direction in Virtualmin for a while, but it&#x27;s a major undertaking and there is very little immediate benefit to existing customers (and, Cloudmin, despite it&#x27;s name, is not very cloud native, either). Our customers are not broadly asking for the ability to operate Kubernetes deployments or for the ability to deploy containers to the cloud, for instance. It&#x27;s a classic innovator&#x27;s dilemma. Our customers want a faster horse (or, in your case, a cheaper horse), but in five to ten years, most won&#x27;t want a horse at all.<p>Also, I think you&#x27;re (wildly) underestimating the time it will take to build a credible commercial alternative, when there is already so much competition, including several free products in the space. The minimum viable product to compete with cPanel is hundreds of thousands of lines of code. I would not start a commercial product in this space today, or even ten years ago, despite my now decades of experience in it.
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