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I Reached $4k/Mo. But How Many Great Startup Ideas Have Died?

205 pointsby raunometsaover 2 years ago

24 comments

scubakidover 2 years ago
Another thing to be cautious about is folks who steer your idea in a new direction towards a larger TAM (with bigger encumbents) because they don&#x27;t see how the current idea can 1000X.<p>Sometimes, intentionally going after a market niche can be a good thing; you don&#x27;t always have to set your sights on being the next unicorn. Especially if you&#x27;re starting out as a solo dev, building the best product out there for a very specific audience can be a good strategy that leaves you with enough breathing room to continue to innovate and grow incrementally.<p>That&#x27;s the general approach I&#x27;ve been taking with ProjectionLab.com (the personal finance simulator I&#x27;ve been building on the side for a year now) and thus far, it&#x27;s been a fun and modestly fruitful journey.
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krm01over 2 years ago
The only person you should ever ask if they like your startup idea are potential customers. Share with them the problem you’re tackling and the solution you’re building.<p>opinions from anyone who is not your potential customer means literally nothing. Be it positive or negative. Friends, investors, strangers on the internet. Nobody matters except for customers.<p>When I started a tiny design agency [1], I got the same reaction from random people (not scalable, why are you only focussing on B2B etc). We’re doing very well luckily and it’s a joy working with customers who love what you are offering.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fairpixels.pro" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fairpixels.pro</a>
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holodukeover 2 years ago
What is this? An article spoiled with 4000 in almost every sentence. As if that amount is attracting someone to start something. Money is never the motivator. I created several products on my own. All solo. Some make 30k a month. I never thought about becoming rich or making this amount or that amount. I always wanted to create a product people enjoyed. I never used any so called accelerator tools. Analytics usage very basic. I spend all my time in development. Frontend , backend , infra everything. Please don&#x27;t believe these annoying articles or products they represent. They sell air.
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tomxorover 2 years ago
&gt;&gt; I don&#x27;t see how this could grow 100x.<p>This only means it&#x27;s not large enough to be investible, that&#x27;s not necessarily a problem and doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s an inherently &quot;bad&quot; idea.<p>Small ideas can net the individuals that work on them just as much as working on large ideas... the workforce might be smaller but once you divide it up it&#x27;s all the same. If the idea provides value to the world, you like it, and can grow it without investment, go for it.
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cosmodiskover 2 years ago
Recently I&#x27;ve been contemplating about creating something fairly small, that would eventually bring in. ~100K&#x2F;year. Many would say it&#x27;s not big enough,or so,but it would allow me to build a decent retirement fund, support many activities that don&#x27;t cost a fortune but still require money and so on.
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dangusover 2 years ago
This begs the question: why is the startup now making $4k a month?<p>Is it because of the <i>idea</i>, or is it because of other factors? Or the idea combined with other factors? Addressable Market? Marketing savvy? Sales leads? Product execution? Luck&#x2F;Viral Posts&#x2F;First Mover Status?<p>I like that this common criticism was brought up in the article:<p>&gt; &quot;Doesn&#x27;t this exist? So many big platforms do it. Very competitive.&quot;<p>This is a validator in itself. A small business can see an existing, competitive market, and that&#x27;s usually an indicator that there are a lot of potential customers. If you look at products like FastMail or Hey they aren&#x27;t so concerned that 95%+ of people are fine with the big free email providers, because literally <i>everyone</i> uses email at some point.<p>I think my overall point is this: The &quot;idea&quot; part of a startup is perhaps one of the <i>less</i> important aspects of it, in my opinion. Maybe it&#x27;s even the <i>least</i> important part of the equation.
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111111101101over 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve found that whenever I&#x27;ve shared my ideas with friends or family, they default to poking holes in them. Instead of looking for reasons why it could work they start listing obvious problems that I&#x27;ve already considered. Things like &quot;You would have to get insurance&quot; or my personal favorite &quot;if it were that easy then everyone would be doing it.&quot; Because of this, I learned long ago not to share any of my projects or ideas with anyone.<p>The flip-side is that when I started to have some success, those same people who would always be so negative became angry with me. After his first time visiting my new home one guy even picked a fistfight with me and I&#x27;ve picked up that several family members have been running me down behind my back.<p>Many working-class people are prone to envy but at the same time they underestimate their own potential. It&#x27;s best not to worry about them.
bdominyover 2 years ago
I just passed 100 downloads of my app after 6 months and I’m thrilled with that pace. In that time I’ve been able to make sure my backend is solid, and talk with people to gain valuable insights. My main metric is excitement. If I’m excited to show people my app and they are excited to try it after we talk, I’m happy.
taf2over 2 years ago
I feel like I heard someone once tell me if you talk about what you are going to do it reduces the chance you’ll actually do it… so just do it is my approach in general… congrats on reaching 4k
caromover 2 years ago
I have a lot of variance in how I answer &quot;what are you building?&quot; for this exact reason. There is what I am building right now and my vision. Getting people to see the vision is difficult.<p>&gt;What are you building?<p>1. An image labeling tool for making open datasets.<p>2. A data-centric training and serving platform.<p>3. I am going to index the physical world in the same way Google indexes the internet.
rank0over 2 years ago
Ideas are cheap. Implementation is the hard part!
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maoeurkover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m working on a B2C product as an indie founder and I run into this quite a lot. Though from my perspective a lot of the &quot;physical vs non-physical&quot; disconnect is also about the fact that people who have not had direct experience in the creation of a software product are unable to extrapolate from what they&#x27;re currently seeing.<p>I think that&#x27;s actually completely reasonable though; people take things at face value. But what that means is that all the potential in the world means nothing unless you can show via features how that&#x27;s a good thing and what the impacts are.<p>This impacts the product I&#x27;m working on because there&#x27;s a lot of stuff on a base level that seems like similar products in the space but the real value is the integration of systems and data to fundamentally change the interactions. And until recently, we didn&#x27;t have much of the &quot;Big Picture Ideas&quot; on display for our users.
lkrubnerover 2 years ago
Peter Drucker, perhaps the greatest business guru of the 20th Century, once remarked that innovators are often disappointed by the manner in which their innovations become popular. In his 1985 book, Innovation and Entrepreneurship, Drucker relates the story of Alfred Einhorn, who invented Novocain, which then became popular with dentists as a local anesthetic. Einhorn held a contempt for dentistry, since it represented such a small niche of medicine. He felt that Novocain should be used by surgeons for all forms of surgery, and so he waged a campaign against the use of Novocain by dentists. In the end, his innovation was successful despite him, rather than because of him. According to Drucker, this pattern, where a product or service is undercut by the entrepreneur who is trying to promote it, is extremely common.<p>When I first read Drucker’s book I found it hard to believe that an entrepreneur would actively sabotage their own innovation. However, having now spent several years working with startups, I’ve seen that it is, indeed, a common pattern. Many entrepreneurs starts websites at least in part because they consider themselves uniquely creative and insightful, and they want the whole world to see them as they see themselves. The website they launch proves them wrong: their insights are proven false, what works in the end is something unexpected. For instance, in 1992, when Bo Peabody launched Tripod, he was thinking that the site would offer content aimed at college students. His idea failed. The company was saved because some of the programmers at the company had started a side project that allowed anyone to create their own web pages. This then became the future of the company. In his book, Lucy or Smart, Peabody says it is important to be smart enough to know when you are getting lucky. And then, you have to be willing to accept that luck. This takes humility. What’s needed in an entrepreneur is emotional resilience, the kind of strength that allows for openness to the unexpected.<p>Twice now I’ve seen an entrepreneur sabotage their own website because it became successful for what they felt were the wrong reasons. This emotional resistance to success is nearly always inspired by one of two factors:<p>1.) The success is with a small niche. The startup was suppose to grow till it was larger than Google, and success with a small niche is, therefore, extremely disappointing. The niche might be big enough to potentially generate several million in revenue, but it won’t ever be enough to catch up with Google.<p>2.) The success is of a conventional type and, therefore, the entrepreneur regards it as boring. Perhaps the site was suppose to pioneer an altogether new style of interaction among humans, and instead the part of the site that becomes popular is of an old type – for instance, the blog on the site becomes highly successful. The entrepreneur is then disappointed, maybe even angry, to be the owner of a boring success.<p>Drucker also emphasized how much self-sabotage tends to trip up entrepreneurs. I documented a case of this in my own book, How To Destroy A Tech Startup In Three Easy Steps:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Destroy-Tech-Startup-Three-Steps-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B0772FJQ1T&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?keywords=how+to+destroy+a+tech+startup&amp;qid=1661109298&amp;sprefix=how+to+destroy+a+tech+s%2Caps%2C79&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Destroy-Tech-Startup-Three-Steps-eboo...</a>
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lakomenover 2 years ago
In my experience &quot;friends&quot; are clueless, especially if they have ni clue about IT and the possibilities. They only see &quot;virtual product&quot; and can&#x27;t imagine you being successful because after all they aren&#x27;t and you can&#x27;t be better than them. I got rid of those friends. In fact if you have them on board sooner or layer you&#x27;ll have trouble with them. Them not working hard enough or not taking it seriously enough or not only not supporting your vision but actively fighting it. It&#x27;s bad for the friendship and bad for the business.<p>After all friends are just people you spent time with more than with other people, because circumstances or similar view on things. That was then but life goes on and people change.
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fairityover 2 years ago
This is a typical example of over-generalization. The author believes because he is successful, his approach to success must be correct or optimal.<p>The truth is that almost all ventures will end reaching his level of success if you simply don’t give up, and apply consciousness to your work. You’ll likely have to pivot as you learn more about your chosen market, but if you’re smart and persistent you’ll eventually figure something out.<p>Instead of shutting out criticism early on (like the author suggests), it’s better to listen and just throw out the unhelpful parts. I’ve actually found that investors are great at pointing out legitimate weaknesses in your business model, but they typically overstate the lethality of such weaknesses.
erwinhover 2 years ago
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dt3ftover 2 years ago
So microfounder.com is selling a list of ~200 startups operated by solo founders making $4k&#x2F;Mo in the process. Huh, you really can sell everything these days. Inspiring!
benatkinover 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t agree with blog posts being referred to as &quot;physical&quot; and thoughts being referred to as &quot;non-physical&quot;.
strangattractorover 2 years ago
How many Great Startup Ideas Have Died? Probably as many that where started and failed despite people telling them it would fail to begin with. The success cannot be predicted in advance. A great startup idea by definition is one that first gets started and then becomes successful. Ideas that fail are never considered great.
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6510over 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve heard all the negative slogans from people who don&#x27;t know any better. I have tons of ideas but only one set of hands. I usually don&#x27;t plan to implement anything which is the only poor quality of the business plans I bother to talk about.<p>The funniest has to be one where I spend years simplifying the description of the product because people didn&#x27;t understand how it was suppose to work. The comments were persistently negative and dismissive but went from hating on one part they didn&#x27;t understand to the next. The pun here is that if people are to stupid or lazy to understand your product you don&#x27;t have a product. Eventually (after years) I got the description hammered down to beautiful short and easy to understand.<p>It was so mind-blowingly simple now that the same moaners each individually took the same entirely different angle of attack (because it are attacks): If it was that simple someone else would have done it.<p>The actual lesion to be learned from this process is not what you think. I look at the &quot;negativity first&quot; folk as sad little creatures who simply don&#x27;t get it. It is behavior so pathetic and intentionally hurtful that you should go on a search to find those qualities in yourself.<p>Every man or woman has things that make them get up in the morning. Their own passions or things to ponder. We all know instinctively how to hide these precious things from others who want to rub poop on them. If you approach someone humbly and carefully and ask them to tell the story of their thing they will re-examine you, look closely what the intend is behind your questions. If you are honest, kind and objective long enough they will eventually tell you how they found their thing and what makes it such an interesting thing for them personally.<p>Identify and purge the negativity from your system when it arises, something like: &quot;what an idiot spending all this money on model trains&quot; or &quot;the banjo is a dumb instrument&quot;, &quot;this woman with her stupid hand bag collection&quot;. Listen but focus on the emotions and stories around their passion.<p>And then... all of a sudden... you find yourself surrounded by passionate people. It is remarkably easy to work on your own thing in the right company. You might not be sinking years into trying to bake the perfect cheese cake but your know your [proverbial] software project is not up to those standards. You go back in to check if you dotted the i&#x27;s perfectly because that is what you do, who you are.
bagelsover 2 years ago
Did you build the thing from the tweet? A marketplace for microstartup investment?
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abrax3141over 2 years ago
can someone post a python to a clear and simple How To do a microstartup from scratch? There must be such a thing.
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DaveExeterover 2 years ago
Two words: survivor bias.
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Rackedupover 2 years ago
money is so important