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Ask HN: How does HN maintain high quality still?

18 pointsby funerrover 2 years ago
I was wondering recently how HN is a community (in 2022) yet still manages to be pretty much 100% spam free. Also, thanks for everyone participating.

15 comments

mikewarotover 2 years ago
I think that many times, many of us have a post all typed up...then we reconsider how well it adds value to the conversation, and close the tab, thus not posting something of lower value, that we would normally be <i>just fine</i> posting elsewhere.<p>That act of self-censorship (or just plain quality control) is a big part of it, in my opinion.<p>I only actually post less than half of the time these days. I&#x27;d nuke this one too, but then I do want to make the point, so here goes.
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jacquesmover 2 years ago
Lots of behind the scenes work by dang &amp; Company, assisted by community members pointing out accounts, sites and comments that are or that seem problematic, assisted by a bunch of automation. Agreed that it works surprisingly well, especially given the scale.
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jschveibinzover 2 years ago
Other than the outstanding moderators, I think that there are a lot of contributors on here who appreciate the focus and don’t want to see another failed forum. I really enjoy this haven of good sense and intellectually stimulating content.
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jbirerover 2 years ago
I have (and still am) part of many toxic communities where I get my dose of dopamine with various forms of trolling and indecent behavior.<p>But I also crave intellectual discussion and learning, since I am passionate about programming and social science. I have witnessed the spiral of many communities into low-grade discussion, moderation abuse and eventual death, so I feel responsible for maintaining the quality and health of this forum. Many times I have misbehaved, I was given a gentle warning instead of a straight-up ban, which made me feel like the moderators care about the users, which led me to be less motivated about causing chaos.<p>It&#x27;s really similar to eating a burger vs. eating a nice home cooked meal with a salad, I go to 4chan when I crave the &quot;burger&quot; and I come here for the steak and salad.
MerelyMortalover 2 years ago
There is spam, you just have to set <i>showdead</i> to &quot;yes&quot; in your settings and look at &#x2F;newest.<p>Most of the spam is worthless filler akin to a Youtube video showing how to install an adblocker. Sometimes it&#x27;s the same quality that you might find in your email&#x27;s spam folder.
nus07over 2 years ago
HN is the last bastion of good reading on the internet not populated by ads . Please never ever have ads. I wish for a world where technology and the internet has not been taken over by ads. Thank you for all the great work you guys do.
nonameiguessover 2 years ago
There is pretty severe rate-limiting. I&#x27;ve never tried to figure out the exact rates, and it&#x27;s possible they vary per-user based on some opaque historical factors, but whatever they are, they&#x27;re low. Try to post 40 articles in a row and it won&#x27;t let you. Combine that with the fact that new accounts can&#x27;t submit anything, and that takes care of a lot of low-hanging fruit with respect to spam prevention.<p>But it isn&#x27;t 100% spam free. It&#x27;s just free of the really obvious things usually plaguing blogs with no filters on comments offering Viagra and work-from-home MLM schemes. But a whole lot of content is submitted that pretends to be more or less objective analysis of some tech problem but is really a thinly-veiled ad for a service solving that problem, or criticism of something posted by a competitor. And CEOs&#x2F;founders are constantly out there shilling for their own crap in comments as answers to user queries. That kind of thing tends to get downvoted and&#x2F;or flagged quickly, but it&#x27;s still there.
barrysteveover 2 years ago
Because it is still tied to the original purpose of the site. Being an offshoot of ycombinator means the focus never shifts and it doesn&#x27;t have to follow trends, it just is a place to talk about tech and tech startups.<p>It doesn&#x27;t have to update the ui to stay popular with young people, it doesn&#x27;t need to have a crisis moment or pivot to a new idea. It can&#x27;t be replaced by a tech alternative as it&#x27;s not in competition with other forums for eyeballs and income.<p>It&#x27;s not really run like a business, I guess.
actually_a_dogover 2 years ago
Compared to 10-12 years ago, I don&#x27;t honestly believe it has the same high quality.
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endisneighover 2 years ago
There’s plenty of spam, though it might not be seen as such.
KingOfCodersover 2 years ago
For some time now I believe the austere UI and features (everything that is needed though) helps keep the high quality of the content.
skadamatover 2 years ago
TONS of good techniques for preventing voting rings. It&#x27;s quite hard (ofc some aggressively self-promotional stuff still comes through)
fredleyover 2 years ago
It doesn&#x27;t-and doesn&#x27;t need to-make money.
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entropicgravityover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ll be dang&#x27;d if I know.
yoyopaover 2 years ago
it&#x27;s good quality (relative to other sites) but there is a lot of arrogance to weed through.