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EBay acquires Hunch for $80m

158 pointsby speedracrover 13 years ago

17 comments

socraticover 13 years ago
Could someone experienced breakdown what a transaction like this looks like for everyone involved? I'm super curious. I've never been acquired, so I really have no insight into the process other than what I've read.<p>Here's the facts as I see them: Crunchbase says Hunch started in September of 2007 and had 23 employees on LinkedIn when they exited. (TechCrunch calls it a 20-person team, so I'm presuming that's all the employees.) They've gotten $19.2m in funding, let's just say $20m. TechCrunch claims the sale was "around" $80m.<p>So what does the breakdown look like? Who gets what? What are the likely investor terms?<p>My totally naive guess would be that the investors got at least a 1x liquidation preference, maybe more. I mean, did Hunch have any revenue? So there was at most $40m to go around to the people at the company. Of course, most of that probably went to the founders. Would maybe 20% of that have gone to the 20-ish employees? So naively pretending that each of the 20-ish employees got 1% for four years, did they each end up with an extra $100k/year? What's the likely distribution of shares among employees?<p>What are the transaction costs (lawyers, taxes, etc.) for this sort of acquisition? How long will the employees have to be at eBay to get their earn-out, and will that earn-out be in addition to their common stock in Hunch? Will they end up being paid less to work for eBay during their earn-out than if they were on the open market?<p>Of course, their are many other reasons to do a deal like this (passion for improving eBay's recommendations, for example), but let's ignore that for now.
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jnorthropover 13 years ago
"It’s been a long journey for Hunch."<p>They were founded in 2008 and sold for $80m 3 years later. That is considered a "long journey" these days? Statements like this give me that "we're in a bubble" feeling.
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AznHisokaover 13 years ago
Wow, this is like a knight in a white horse for Hunch.. I seriously doubt they were making any profit... This sounds like a talent acquisition. I mean this is ridiculous... but it goes to show you.. you gotta show up for the game (the startup game, I mean) to win it... $80 m for a site that doesn't even get 1 million uniques (per Compete) a month is a STEAL. I mean.. seriously, everyone who has a CS background should just start something on the side if a deal like this is possible.
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dr_over 13 years ago
I never used Hunch much, and I'm not sure if an 80 million exit with 20 million in VC funding is so great for the founders, but I suppose it gives eBay a footing in NYC - that's the part of the article I found most interesting.
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kennystoneover 13 years ago
Chris Dixon talked a lot about "going big", growing big companies, etc. He talked a lot about a new "data tier" for the web and how Hunch would be an intelligent filter for all the data. I wonder what changed?
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dgurneyover 13 years ago
Something about Hunch's trajectory is utterly predictable and ever-so-slightly depressing. I suppose building to sell is a perfectly valid business model -- if you succeed -- but it makes me feel a little dirty. And if nobody buys you, you're well and truly f#%@$ed.<p>Although who am I to argue with $80 million.
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rokhayakebeover 13 years ago
"I have a hunch nobody ever meaningfully used Hunch."<p><a href="http://twitter.com/#!/rafat/status/138633186300264448" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#!/rafat/status/138633186300264448</a>
beagledudeover 13 years ago
Hunch is like my divorced neighbor who couldn't work it out, so now they're giving up and short selling the house and bringing down the values for everyone.
Zirroover 13 years ago
"It’s been a long journey for Hunch. The company was founded in 2008."<p>Knowing how long it can take for a small company with a good idea and product to launch, I wouldn't really call that a long journey.<p>Still, congratulations to them. I hope eBay is able to make something good out of what they have created so far.
Brajeshwarover 13 years ago
I never felt the need to use Hunch on its own. Now that it can be more of a tool to supplement other objectives, it sure might be the right tool after-all.
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vakselover 13 years ago
did anyone actually use Hunch seriously?
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benhalllondonover 13 years ago
Anyone have any suggestions about how Hunch would scale to eBay levels?<p>Seems Hunch has gone the 'Mega Machine' route (1 T RAM, 48 Core [1]), from 700k users (80m Total TTHY / 113THAYs [1]), make 250k API users<p>How do you scale that out to eBay numbers?<p>[1]<a href="http://blog.hunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/110509-HUNCH-TASTEGRAPH_800px_v2_small.png" rel="nofollow">http://blog.hunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/110509-HUNC...</a>
bproperover 13 years ago
Here's an interview with Chris Dixon on the Ebay purchase.<p>eBay is an interesting challenge because so many of the listings don't have metadata like product IDs.<p>The work Hunch has been doing on the open web is a good fit for this kind of unstructured data.<p><a href="http://www.betabeat.com/2011/11/21/chris-dixon-ebay-hunch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.betabeat.com/2011/11/21/chris-dixon-ebay-hunch/</a>
speedracrover 13 years ago
Is Arrington rebuilding a proper tech blog as a counterpart to the growing news machine of Techeablecrunchbeat?
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subpixelover 13 years ago
Whatever Hunch is really good at, we haven't seen it yet. I assume Ebay has, and that it has everything to do with crunching customer browsing &#38; purchase behavior to offer them products they're most likely to purchase.
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pepdekover 13 years ago
There is a great play around the collection of data outside of just social space. Hunch has done a great job aggregating this data via a social means and displaying the data to the masses in an appealing way to drive more people towards their "recommendation" engine. I work for a site called Ranker and we're focused on a similar data play with much greater focus on SEO.<p>* <a href="http://www.ranker.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ranker.com/</a>
iampimsover 13 years ago
I like their movie predictor: <a href="http://hunch.com/movies/" rel="nofollow">http://hunch.com/movies/</a>