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Leak ruins NASA moon rocket launch bid; next try weeks away

69 pointsby tomparkover 2 years ago

11 comments

inglor_czover 2 years ago
Hydrogen is stuff from hell when it comes to engineering challenges. Not as bad as some of the &quot;Things I Won&#x27;t Work With&quot; chemicals [0], but still. I am almost convinced that whatever direction the future carbonless energy production takes, hydrogen won&#x27;t be a significant part of it.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;blog-post&#x2F;things-i-won-t-work-dioxygen-difluoride" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;blog-post&#x2F;things-i-won-t-wor...</a>
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aethersonover 2 years ago
Not that two failed launch attempts are all that big a deal in the grand scheme, but they just add more evidence to the already weighty pile that says that SLS is a bad rocket and a dead-end path.
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dmitrybrantover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m afraid this might actually keep fueling moon-landing denial conspiracy theories: &quot;Look how hard it is to get to the moon in 2022! How can we have possibly done it in 1969?&quot;
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perihelionsover 2 years ago
Related threads from yesterday:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32702211" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32702211</a> (<i>&quot;NASA – Artemis I – Liquid Hydrogen Leak Detected Once Again&quot;</i>, 94 comments)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32702761" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32702761</a> (<i>&quot;Artemis I Launch Attempt Scrubbed&quot;</i>, 108 comments)
verytrivialover 2 years ago
I confess I hope this programme is quietly shelved. From everything I&#x27;ve read it is at best refining decades old tech, not really pushing to whole new areas. This launch is literally re-using Shuttle engines. And I can&#x27;t seem to find a good, non-hand-wavey explanation as to <i>why</i> we should be going to the Moon at all. I&#x27;d personally trade this whole thing for an autonomous rover on Venus that lasts a month.
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TheJoeManover 2 years ago
I read somewhere (and can’t seem to find the link) that the rollback to the VAB is because there is a small battery powering the abort system that has an approximate 3 week lifespan. And this past sat was near the end of that timeframe.
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Victeriusover 2 years ago
I think HN is at least somewhat qualified to speak to the talent side of the issue.<p>Is this a matter of NASA failing to attract and retain the best engineers because of non-competitive TC? In this case, <i>where</i> are the 10x rocket engineers who would have prevented these problems?<p>Is this a matter of lost institutional knowledge, where it&#x27;s been so long these kinds of rockets were launched that the people who knew everything about them died or retired?<p>Or is this just a matter of a problem being hard to solve, even with the best engineers and the institutional knowledge that comes with decades of experience?
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snewmanover 2 years ago
A very good article here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;years-after-shuttle-nasa-rediscovers-the-perils-of-liquid-hydrogen&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;years-after-shuttle-...</a>
modelessover 2 years ago
Anyone taking bets on whether Starship will beat SLS to orbit?
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newaccount2021over 2 years ago
Sadly emblematic for the US; tens of billions spent with no visible outcome<p>No different than our approach to infrastructure, education, Healthcare, broadband....plenty of money, no results
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kurupt213over 2 years ago
Seems like this has all been a show and that the SLS was never expected to launch
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