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In wake of data breach – Samsung forcing users to accept T&CS or risk their data

147 pointsby dddavidover 2 years ago

10 comments

kmeisthaxover 2 years ago
&gt;They also remove the prohibition against class action lawsuits, and allow disputes to be settled in court instead of through arbitration. This is actually good news for litigation-minded Samsung customers - especially in light of certain recent data breaches and unnecessary delays in reporting them.<p>Fun fact: much of this is because lawyers started telling people how to launch arbitration en-masse, and it turns out you cannot legally compel arbitration without also offering to pay for it. And since there&#x27;s no class-action provision with most arbitration companies, it was actually <i>more</i> expensive to compel arbitration than to just take the class-actions.
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walrus01over 2 years ago
&gt; the new terms are instead, “governed and construed in accordance with the laws of the jurisdiction where you are a resident.” This could be good or bad, depending on where you live.<p>I&#x27;d like to see what happens when someone in Afghanistan with a late-model Samsung android phone files a lawsuit against them in the Taliban&#x27;s local sharia law court.
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kleibaover 2 years ago
<i>And if you created your account before September 2021, Samsung is under no obligation to notify you when those terms change - unless you attempt to log into your online account, that is.</i><p>Wouldn&#x27;t that depend on which legislation you live in?
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DanAtCover 2 years ago
Samsung is such a trash company with garbage products. Why people are willing to pay them a premium is beyond me.
metadatover 2 years ago
tl;dr:<p>&gt; Whether or not Samsung’s updated terms affect you, you’ll have to accept them in order to get the reassurance that no-one has logged into your Samsung account, and is currently monitoring your whereabouts using the “find my device” feature, checking out your frequent locations in “Places”, or using your profile pic to create fake accounts elsewhere. If you don’t want to accept terms and conditions foisted on you with the barest nod towards consent, well, that’s tough really.<p>Android users might unknowingly be victims of location monitoring by a hacker, and users are forced to accept new ToS just to verify whether this is or isn&#x27;t happening.<p>Yuck, what a user-hostile privacy+security mess. A total failure on the &quot;Keep-Users-Safe&quot; front.
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systematicalover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m more interested to see how this guys raspberry pi server holds up.
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chris_wotover 2 years ago
Well, that&#x27;s good. In Australia, we have some pretty tough privacy laws.
zeristorover 2 years ago
My LG TV has a new Agreement.<p>I guess I’ll just unplug the network table, assuming it can’t tunnel back up the HDMI cable to my Apple TV.
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cryptonectorover 2 years ago
&gt; One new aspect which may scare Samsung customers is:<p>&gt; “We respect the intellectual property rights of others. We may suspend or delete an account or stop providing all or part of our Services to an account if we reasonably believe that such an account has repeatedly infringed intellectual property rights.”<p>&gt; The terms don’t say what constitutes reasonable belief.<p>You have no digital rights. And yes, it&#x27;s a private company, blah blah blah. But you still have no digital rights. And most everything happens on the Internet now. Think.
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dimensionc132over 2 years ago
The hack shows, that users data is at risk regardless of whether users accept the T&amp;Cs.....how moronic to think that accepting new T&amp;C will somehow negate another hack or data breach.<p>I guess normies will believe it ... :(