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Putin’s Energy War with Europe Seems to Falter

59 pointsby vwoolfover 2 years ago

9 comments

helsinkiandrewover 2 years ago
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cm2187over 2 years ago
But long term, despite their history of moronic energy policy, I don&#x27;t see the EU making itself dependent again on Russian gas (or any other critical commodity). Which is kind of a problem for a commodity driven economy like Russia.
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Amboliaover 2 years ago
I think the only question here is not if the EU can secure &quot;enough gas&quot;, which I doubt it can even if the article is so sure, but at what price? And can the German industry stay competitive with those energy prices?<p>In case it can&#x27;t, what will be the EU&#x27;s future without Germany as the economic motor?
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ivolimmenover 2 years ago
And the prices are soaring. I am currently under contract and have &#x27;normal&#x27; price per month but my contract ends this year. A friend of mine showed me his currently price for energy (gas and electricity bill in one) and his price wend from 300 to a 1100 per month. For people having a low income this is devastating. Some people on welfare cut the gas line to avoid getting into billing issues. I fear the future.
dvfjsdhgfvover 2 years ago
&gt; European governments say Mr. Putin’s gambit is to cut natural-gas supplies to inflict pain on European households and businesses so populations turn against current government policies of sanctions against Russia and support for Ukraine with weapons and financial aid.<p>He&#x27;s so terribly wrong. He doesn&#x27;t know Europeans at all. There is no way people would say, &quot;We are cold so it is fine to kill Ukrainians.&quot; How could we look in the mirror? It&#x27;s against the very core of who we are. Of course people are concerned, but the solutions are non-Russian sources of energy exclusively.
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SURAover 2 years ago
Is anyone in Europe? Is it true that the media said that the electricity price there has risen dozens of times?
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Heysoover 2 years ago
Putin tells Europe: if you want gas then open Nord Stream 2<p>&quot;President Vladimir Putin on Friday denied Russia had anything to do with Europe&#x27;s energy crisis, saying that if the European Union wanted more gas it should lift sanctions preventing the opening of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.<p>Speaking to reporters after the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit in Uzbekistan, Putin blamed what he called &quot;the green agenda&quot; for the energy crisis, and insisted that Russia would fulfil its energy obligations.<p>&quot;The bottom line is, if you have an urge, if it&#x27;s so hard for you, just lift the sanctions on Nord Stream 2, which is 55 billion cubic metres of gas per year, just push the button and everything will get going,&quot; Putin said.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;energy&#x2F;russias-putin-says-moscow-not-blame-eu-energy-crisis-2022-09-16&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;energy&#x2F;russias-putin-says-m...</a>
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fulafelover 2 years ago
Alternatively, &quot;Putin declined further financing of his war from Europe, having filled coffers, sending climate disaster ravaged Europe into reluctant fossil energy rampdown&quot;.
diimdeepover 2 years ago
Who is at War exactly ?<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nord_Stream_2#US_sanctions_and_subsequent_waiver_and_negotiations" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Nord_Stream_2#US_sanctions_and...</a><p>[2] &gt; Alternatives to Russian supplies—including LNG from the U.S. and other countries
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