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Tell HN: Reddit shadowban account upon creation

43 pointsby boundcheckedover 2 years ago
Sharing this funny story so that people won&#x27;t feel alone when it happen to them.<p>It seems my first and only reddit account created two hours ago is shadow-banned since the very beginning, tried one comment on &#x2F;r&#x2F;cpp and one post on &#x2F;r&#x2F;rust, nobody ever seen them other than one kind mod that confirmed there&#x27;s nothing they can do.<p>Even funnier is that there is a subreddit &#x2F;r&#x2F;ShadowBan dedicated to test shadowban and some obvious spam-bot accounts are not banned yet mine is.<p>related: [1] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=30344907 [2] https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;modhelp&#x2F;comments&#x2F;oonfba&#x2F;<p>EDIT: now this post got flagged as well, the funny continues.

13 comments

beauHDover 2 years ago
I remember registering for Reddit with Tor, then posting my first comment, only to have it invisible when I browse in an entirely new browsing session. So I tried my trusty residential connection and then I was able to post without any shadowban in place.<p>I concluded they place a &#x27;score&#x27; on your IP. Obviously Tor has low reputation, so they ban that. I imagine residential IPs due to their traceability actually helps Reddit in some cases where if you say something off-color or highly inflammatory or outright illegal, then they have grounds to call law enforcement and track you down.<p>Hackernews does this too. I can&#x27;t create throwaway HN accounts on a VPN&#x2F;Tor because my first post is always shadowbanned, but my residential IP is never banned, and my posts show up in &#x2F;newest every time.<p>Also: Welcome to the Internet!
joelrunyonover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve noticed instagram does this too.<p>You try to create a second account and they will &quot;suspend&quot; you automatically and force you through a verification system.<p>Their spam algorithms have to be better than this...
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reset-passwordover 2 years ago
I think they only let bots post on Reddit nowadays. &#x2F;s<p>In all seriousness though, this happened to me too and I bypassed it with a clean VM (no weird fonts that can be fingerprinted), default Chrome install, standard browser window size, time zone&#x2F;IP location matching, and connection to a VPN. I was able to make several accounts and none were shadowbanned.
waffle_ssover 2 years ago
Take heart, even if you weren&#x27;t shadowbanned, with a young, low karma account your first comments on most subreddits would get automatically modded as spam by Reddit&#x27;s dumpy spam filter anyway.
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lausbubover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m not 100% sure, but Reddit seems to shadowban accounts created from some IPs based on some reputation score. Perhaps malicious activity is occurring on your network due to malware?
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jethronethroover 2 years ago
Can&#x27;t post to Reddit? Guess what: it&#x27;s not the end of the world. Think about moving on.
koolbaover 2 years ago
Is this done globally by Reddit itself or is applied individually by subs to new accounts?
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ketralnisover 2 years ago
What&#x27;s the account?
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haunterover 2 years ago
Maybe just me but I&#x27;m starting to doubt any &quot;name-and-shame&quot; Tell HN posts from throwaway accounts.<p>If you are a regular here and have a proper account then why did you make a throwaway for this? If you are not a regular here then why do you make a name-and-shame post as your first post?
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desindolover 2 years ago
Most subreddits require a certain amount of karma to interact with the subreddit most don’t tell you about it some do per PM. Most of the time it’s 100-300.
ericfrazierover 2 years ago
Reddit, she ded
y_u_shadowbanover 2 years ago
I made a post that said, &quot;sounds like HN lmfao&quot; and I got shadowbanned lmfao
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oneplaneover 2 years ago
It kinda sucks that the name of this concept (shadow ban) is completely ruined by analphabetic luddites (hyperbole, don&#x27;t worry) calling every platform that ignores them a bunch of shadowbanners while it might simply be a case of an eventually consistent database, a hype algorithm that chose someone else&#x27;s message, or a feed curation mechanism that simply doesn&#x27;t include everyone else&#x27;s messages.<p>A more usable term might be &#x27;muted&#x27; or &#x27;hidden&#x27; instead of a complete &#x27;ban without letting you know&#x27;. Internally it&#x27;s even more likely that they work with an extra reputation system next to the visible karma system where new accounts are simply given &#x27;bad&#x27; reputation way sooner than they should. Considering mod-communication works fine, it&#x27;s probably just shoddy spam protection systems combined with a recursive problem of not having enough reputation to post, which is required to gain said reputation.